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From what I've seen the jungle is still usable

But why wouldn't you use it? So your top now has split XP and all the other lanes lose gank availability almost all of the time early game? I see it as a way of losing a possible first blood
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Old 12-1-2011, 05:04 PM   #1642
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From what I've seen the jungle is still usable

But why wouldn't you use it? So your top now has split XP and all the other lanes lose gank availability almost all of the time early game? I see it as a way of losing a possible first blood
In the games where me and my friends decided not to have a jungler, we've gotten first blood many times. Just need more vision than normal.
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I guess in that sense it works. But you're right, jungling has been changed too much

Also Nocturne needs to be buffed b/c I find him almost useless now. His ult made him awesome, now that's nerfed to shit
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The new jungle is shitty, that's why jungling is a bad idea.
Well you said yourself that the devs are reworking it. If Phraek wants to play everything as a jungler (AND BOY DOES HE), jungling will be viable. I'm going to be patient.
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Well you said yourself that the devs are reworking it. If Phraek wants to play everything as a jungler (AND BOY DOES HE), jungling will be viable. I'm going to be patient.
I know, but in the moment it's shit. That's why he was complaining about people on his team jungling. Jungling before this patch was a must-have for teams.
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It's still viable if you know what you're doing. And queue-dodging outside of ranked is still a dick move.
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It's still viable if you know what you're doing. And queue-dodging outside of ranked is still a dick move.
It's NOWHERE NEAR as good. Jungling helps get some early kills, but in early game the jungler can't even keep up with bottom lane in levels unless they refuse to gank. The XP gain has been overnerfed.

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* Penalty of missed ganks: While we do like this tradeoff, we don't like the tradeoff ratio here, something you guys have also felt pretty substantially. Changes made will effect this for the better, whether in increased reward or reduced resource loss.

* Gold Rate: Jungler gold is slightly lower than needed, and this is also related to small camp gold. We will be more careful here as to not make counter-jungling worse (since it revolves largely on stealing the big monsters out of camps), but will be evaluating this.
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Let's nerf the amount of gold and and exp jungle camps give, so that junglers are under-funded and under-leveled the entire game unless they steal lane exp.
Then let's increase the spawn rate of jungle monsters so that the penalty for ganking is larger than before, and counter-jungling and early jungle invades become totally useless.

These changes should give us the gank-heavy, active game we want.
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In case any of you play Shaco, there's a way to hit level 3 like ~2:20ish in with correct box placement and have both buffs

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How is jungling a bad idea? You maximize the amount of gold and experience gained by your team and you have someone roaming around ganking when people overextend, which should be often in the solo lane.
99% of "junglers" do neither
i've seen several just start laning without a word
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Hyperbole aside, your actual complaint is that you don't like teammates who don't know what they're doing. Me too.
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I can agree that jungle somewhat sucks now, just played a jungle Noc game

The blue/red buff's hp over the course of the match is weird, the buffs I don't even understand what they do. The new ones at least.
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Hooooooly shit.... I stop playing for a couple days, come back, and my first 2 games were exactly the same. I had at least 2 people who didn't know what they were doing with their champ... ****in solo queue.....
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Stick to ranked duo queue, its a million times better and it counts towards the same elo as solo
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Hyperbole aside, your actual complaint is that you don't like teammates who don't know what they're doing. Me too.
no, that isn't it at all
both teams always have people who don't know what they're doing, therefore in that respect it's completely even
if you're mad about that, it's because you don't know how to work with or around bad teammates, both of which are completely necessary skills for goddamn EVERYTHING in 2011

i'm saying riot should remove the jungle
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Got 30 invite me to the team.

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double post but jesus ranked solo queue is a joke. leavers and intentional feeders almost every game.
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Volibear or Warrick who wins?
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Warwick is just bad in general and Volibear seems a little op.
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Volibear wins, then they nerf Irelia
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