TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by roundbox

probably didn't n1? they didn't. lar got his check on gradiant

no i spelled that right

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by inDheart

no i spelled that right

hahahahahaha
good to see that my reading comprehension skill is 1 this game


I need to step away for now, holy shit

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by inDheart

also wolves are high if he's real and they don't block him last night given that they provably didn't n1 (but they may be high anyway)

How do you know they have a roleblock?

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

How do you know they have a roleblock?

there is one setup where they don't and in that setup they kill him because that team has no other counterplay to a cop

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

How do you know they have a roleblock?

assuming lar is true cop, setup must have at least CC for rolls

TTTTTCC = serial killer setup and also no wolf blocker

if we assume there's no serial killer, then we can assume that the setup is one that includes a wolf blocker

[Daikyi]

i'm in a bad emotional spot right now from outside games stuff. 0 bullshit time

mml stop being a shitfuck dude. Do you HONESTLY Think that roundbox openwolfs so hard that he tries to actively get a cop lynched? If he's a wolf and sees a potential soft, but doesn't believe it and keeps pushing, isn't that a fucking valid play? Just because you soft some shit doesn't mean that roundbox's reads didn't progress naturally into suspecting you as scum regardless. Wolves can soft all the time, and if roundbox still thinks you're scummy that has nothing to do with anything. If anything, a wolf sees that and backs off instantly to not generate any heat on themselves. what does a wolf have to gain from pushing in hard on a soft they recognize

like have some damn respect for other people's play, i'm pretty sure roundbox isn't braindead

[Gradiant]

alright yeah, had to check the letters with assuming there's a full town cop. makes sense

[Daikyi]

no result from night means there's at least some form of roleblocker. if town roleblocks mml that night, then something's wrong with the people playing rn

[Gradiant]

he'd get an actual result even if the target is killed?

[Daikyi]

yes, in OP

Cop is Roleblocked while attempting to perform a check: No Result

also you're not confirmed town because godfather is well in play, as the only setup w/o godfather is 0Ts

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

he'd get an actual result even if the target is killed?

this I'm not sure of, but I'm not going to play in the world where I assume lar is not cop right now

I'm looking elsewhere

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

yes, in OP

also you're not confirmed town because godfather is well in play, as the only setup w/o godfather is 0Ts

that quote doesn't really answer the question about whether targeting the nightkill would also give that result,
though I guess the answer could be inferred from this instead?:

Originally Posted by the sun fan

The only time that a player will be told that they are roleblocked is if they are expecting a result. This refers only to Cops, 1-shot Cops, Role Cops and 1-shot Role Cops.

also true about godfather i guess

[the sun fan]

roundbox (2)- inD, MML
raeko (1)- roundbox

[Daikyi]

in terms of the remaining players
roundbox - easily the most clear development of reads across the board over all players except for me probably lol. I don't think i'm able to follow his mindset as closely if he's wolfing
4) MixMasterLar - confirmed cop for all intents and purposes rn that needs to settle the fuck down and actually think about the game being confirmed, rather than deluding himself over some grandiose catch that he thinks he has tbh
5) Gradiant - becoming much more wary at the cool calm gradiant here, and am wondering if the early phase "wow same thoughts as daikyi" is more of a subtle pocket attempt rather than anything, because i was only really pointing out things that stuck out to me, rather than giving any fleshed out reads at all
7) inDheart - i haven't attempted to read
10) Antori - can really go either way at this point. it feels bad not having resolved him early on, the "probably derptown" gut feel has long since subsided. The same kind of feel you'd get for pursuing like, haku, wv, drizzleromancegirl, etc. on d0
11) Hakulyte - kinda dropped off the face of the planet, which is also pretty worrying because i think his town game heavily revolves around trying to make plays and actively engage in the game. imo probably would get my first vote
12) mellonxcollie - literally just sheeping roundbox's read
13) ShadoWolfe - same as indheart

just as a mindset update, also i forgot to mention that ffa is actual garbage lol

[Antori]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I don't know what happened in the night but wolves fucked up

Originally Posted by roundbox

I wonder what the wolves are scared of leaving Lar alive and looking elsewhere

ok one of you has to be wolf and I'm leaning Lar/Gradiant/raeko since raeko was voting roundbox abit on D0, I'm was really trying to town read Lar but him Green checking Gradiant was so hard for me to believe since he played so bad at EoD and nobody is giving it enough credit
people can fake claim PR that's a strat right and honestly after he suggested no PR claims to out that's when i felt like i was being sheeped

i think what i need from Lar is who he thinks are the wolfteams if roundbox IS a wolf because i dont see any good ones

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Asking for the check might be ok but sitting there saying you don't understand the soft? I hardclaimed the soft doesn't matter unless I'm counterclaimed

Which I wasn't.

I dont see how a counterclaim is gonna prove or disprove anything because we're not sure what the rolled PRs are, you can't counter claim a PR when there is room for 4?(I'm basing this from previous rolling of the game) and frankly asking for a counterclaim minutes before Night phase is just red flag.

Originally Posted by roundbox

Assuming Lar is town, ALL THREE WAGONS LAST NIGHT WERE ON TOWNS

THIS SHOULD BE A CALL FOR ALARM

again I'm town reading you because this is exactly what i was thinking when FFA flipped town and it made no sense so i started reading more into it and having Lar maby as wolf cop made the most sense to me

i dont see why everyone believes Lar's PR hardclaim except for maby Gradiant, @Gradiant would you consider by any chance voting Lar this phase or am i the only option still?

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Worried of possibility that mml took nobody being on me as me being a safe green check to make as a wolf and that's why he didn't die

related to question above

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

We still lynch Roundbox

I'm not voting roundbox today at all because of FFA flip town and because of this post

Originally Posted by roundbox

Assuming Lar is town, ALL THREE WAGONS LAST NIGHT WERE ON TOWNS

THIS SHOULD BE A CALL FOR ALARM

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Going back to this for a moment


It is a little weird that I have a green check on Gradiant

and

Wolves let me live

and

Roundbox preemptively mention that it will be bullshit when someone pairs him up with Gradiant when nobody was ever considering that world

But hey that could be a wolf trying to call my check in doubt and I would think Roundbox is good enough to try that sooooooooooo yeah, This is WIFOM

again with this you're hinting at the possibility of Gradiant being wolf just like he hinted at your possibility of being wolf but neither of you are focusing on it and rather pursuing other possible wolf partners
i really do feel like you're both wolfs and you know exactly why wolfs couldn't kill the cop claim and the cop's green check so MML

[Antori]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

antori, why would you did there instead of xelnya?

raeko for sure

[Antori]

Originally Posted by Antori

raeko for sure

oh i readed the question wrong, i would die because i pushed on you so much and you were wolf trying to silence me, i have a strong feeling you may still be wolf BUT it mostly depends on how you play rest of this day since i moved on from you

[Antori]

Originally Posted by roundbox

floating raeko/daikyi/+1

i wanna hear daikyi's thoughts on this because i can imagine either daikyi gradiant or even shado taking the middle spot and MML the last spot

[Antori]

Originally Posted by inDheart

there is one setup where they don't and in that setup they kill him because that team has no other counterplay to a cop

this could be the case with the "No Result" check being roleblocked
if sunfan can drop by and tell us what's the different messages for checking dead person and check being roleblocked if there is difference it would be fair here

[Antori]

I'd like to hear more from raeko and shadowolfe(shado didn't vote FFA last night but maby that's because he knew it wasn't necessairy to get the lynch? i wanna know what he thinks of MML and roundbox after last night, roundbox since he voted him)