TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

why do you believe them

i liked their reaction to pressure being put on them, and they haven't done anything i feel is overly scummy to me. i've been townreading them for most of the game, and with the thought that the humans are trying to bus monsters and pretend like they're bussing their teammates, it makes sense to me for napsta to be town

they seem like they've been suitably trying to progress the game and while the effort hasn't been enormous it's about what i'd expect from a town that's doing their best to move things along

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

if this is meant to discredit me, Flowey was townreading me super hard

it's meant to add to the "dummy was being townread hard as fuck, why did flowey get murdered instead of him" argument

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

it's meant to add to the "dummy was being townread hard as fuck, why did flowey get murdered instead of him" argument

because what's happening would happen if I was left alive rofl

[TWG Alphys]

sounds kinda like plane's argument which you got mad at

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

because what's happening would happen if I was left alive rofl

not necessarily

if you got wolfkilled then temmie wouldn't have flipped and we likely would have lynched her as per alphys's plan which would leave us... in a much shittier position than we are now since we'd be down two monsters instead of just one

[TWG Tsunderplane]

wait i completely misread that because it was worded weirdly but whatever

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

not necessarily

if you got wolfkilled then temmie wouldn't have flipped and we likely would have lynched her as per alphys's plan which would leave us... in a much shittier position than we are now since we'd be down two monsters instead of just one

this is predicated on the wolves knowing Flowey was an oracle beforehand which I sincerely doubt

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

this is predicated on the wolves knowing Flowey was an oracle beforehand which I sincerely doubt

not in the slightest

i'm saying if you were a monster and ended up getting wolfkilled we would not have had a flip today and would likely have lynched temmie, thus we would be down two monsters

nothing i have said in this post requires the wolves to know that flowey was the oracle this is simply a hypothetical scenario of you dying last phase instead of flowey

[TWG Tsunderplane]

i'm not even sure what i'm arguing against anymore, now i'm just really confused

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

not in the slightest

i'm saying if you were a monster and ended up getting wolfkilled we would not have had a flip today and would likely have lynched temmie, thus we would be down two monsters

nothing i have said in this post requires the wolves to know that flowey was the oracle this is simply a hypothetical scenario of you dying last phase instead of flowey

looks like we both misread something then

[TWG Alphys]

still waiting for further mentioning of undyne since 'there's plenty of time to do it'. Just a bunch of responses only when anybody mentions you.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

still waiting for further mentioning of undyne since 'there's plenty of time to do it'. Just a bunch of responses only when anybody mentions you.

ok look Jake

communicating in the thread in real time is part of playing the game. I know you know this.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

the other scenario i can think of is if you are a monster and the humans left you alive knowing you would pounce on me as soon as temmie flipped green (this happened sooner than anticipated due to oracle)

if humans knew that the pressure would be on me if you were left alive i could very easily see them leaving you alone to do their work for them in trying to get me killed off

this is a troubling scenario and relies on a lot of variables but it's a possibility

[TWG Tsunderplane]

in before you try to spin this yet again as me knowing temmie would flip green

[TWG Temmie]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

it's meant to add to the "dummy was being townread hard as fuck, why did flowey get murdered instead of him" argument

wait, didn't you say to me that they were aiming for a possible medic?
what if the humans thought Flowey was medic?

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Temmie

wait, didn't you say to me that they were aiming for a possible medic?
what if the humans thought Flowey was medic?

In all certainty they thought he was a medic or a regular monster. Why would they go after anything else?

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

In all certainty they thought he was a medic or a regular monster. Why would they go after anything else?

anything else being the bomb or oracle, both kills that would end badly in their favor.

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Man apparently people have been bussing me all game.
LEAVE ME ALONE HUMANS.

speaking of this, while sans clearly went harder on you in his reads list than he went on plane, mad dummy (at least) treated the read on plane like it carried more weight than the one on you without really comparing the two

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

Which makes this look odd given dummy's weird argument with doggo vs papyrus

starting to realize i'm not sure if i've ever read a greg wolf game

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Undyne

Another strange thing about Pap is that he always seems to have the votecount. Now lately, that level of effort is less surprising than it was early on, but something that stuck out to me was that he was keeping a super vigilant eye on the votecount even before he started openly trying. He started playing hard, but he was keeping the count even before he was playing hard, so that suggests he was playing hard even when he wasn't making reads.

votecount takes zero effort 99% of the time lol

Originally Posted by TWG Undyne

Also, I've fucked up four times posting on my main, and if anyone saw that last one, there's absolutely no hiding it anymore. So I'm just gonna come out and say it:

Hi, I'm Tokzic!

[TWG Temmie]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

*doesn't work on mobile