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Default Holiday Special Batch Set 2

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Christmas Ain't The Same (Psychotik)
Fake Santa (Psychotik)
Gay (ositzxz369)
Jingle Bells (Bass) (Psychotik)
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South for Winter (Ghost_Medley)
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X'mas Night (Psychotik)
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Accepted
Unborn Baby (ositzxz369) [0/10] [8/10]
South for Winter (Ghost_Medley) [7.5/10]

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Killing All Your Aggressions (ositzxz369) [8*/10]
- resolve sync issue at 2:11.428

Fake Santa (Psychotik) [7.5*/10]
- address copy/paste, improve PR the best you can, remove mini-jack collisions (see notes)

Christmas Ain't The Same (Psychotik) [7/10]
- work on notes to bring to acceptance threshold

Jingle Bells (Bass) (Psychotik) [7/10]
- work on notes to bring to acceptance threshold

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X'mas Night (Psychotik) [6/10]
Gay (ositzxz369) [5.5/10]
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In an effort to expedite notes for batches, Iím going to refrain from extremely detailed notes. Feel free to inquire if necessary.

Christmas Ainít The Same {Skyelle} (Psychotik)
Rating: 7/10 [+?]

- offset changed from -0.039 to -0.045
- this chartís a bit on the tough side to judge, because I definitely see some deliberate omissions and structure control in the non-chorus sections
- that being said, jump usage feels a bit strange even with the omissions to me, with the exception of the chorus areas which have a bit more attention to everything in general
- 57.725/etc: missing notes for some vocal riffs (you follow a similarly indirect riff moments later at 59.581 as an example)
- some patterning structures could be improved a little bit (some examples: 7.158 could be 1-2-3 as opposed to 4-3-4 to better separate lower and higher vocals - or even, 1-2-4, 4-3 -> 1-2-4, 4-3, to give both separation and relevance to the vocals; 16.127 is the first of three different pitches on 8th notes yet captured by only two columns, etc).
- chartís not too bad overall and takes a fair approach for an easier chart, but I do think it can be better in terms of representation

Fake Santa {S.S.H} (Psychotik)
Rating: 7.5*/10 [+.*]

- offset is slightly erroneous in the intro but changing it affects the notes I give so do it last: I had my red notes synced to an offset of -0.864 and then adjusted the sync in the early slowdown because changing it to that made everything super late. Do that part last because any times I give you are before this change.
- with regards to the intro, I understand balancing both melodies is important, but it is likely a better aesthetic choice to give pitch relevance precedence to the Rudolph melody, since the other notes are basically extraneous/filler compared to that - itís not bad, but can be better
- overall, this file has a solid explicit structure; layering is generally on point and pretty clear/concise
- pitch relevance detail can be improved as a whole
- there are a few instances of mini-jack collisions that donít really need to happen (52.682, 1:00.460, etc) and honestly ruin the flow of the chart
- there are numerous missing guitar notes throughout the chart that can easily be filled in either by adding notes or layering (melody: 24.904, 29.904, etc; missing: 42.034, 42.589, 54.534, 56.756/etc)
- mix up your patterns a bit more while resolving for pitch relevance, as there is some noticeable copy/paste in sections
- conditional queue on everything in red
- thereís some good in here for sure; needs more polishing

Gay {Venetian Snares} (ositzxz369)
Rating: 5.5/10 [?]

- much like your Choprite submission in another batch, this song has numerous BPM changes that simply donít need to happen - simply set the offset to -0.465 and set the BPM to 199.830, and youíll be good to go. Donít be fooled by the early sampling that comes before the first actual beat: the start of the waveform isnít always the downbeat in every song.
- this chart is incredibly imbalanced in terms of difficulty; a good majority of isnít layered yet there are instances of 4-note minijacks at 200 BPM in other spots along with uncomfortable transitions, making this very frustrating to play for just about everyone
- the chartís structure has a somewhat accurate approach and does pay attention to vocal sampling nuances, but the single-note gimmick grows old very quickly, especially near the end where there are long sequences of 8th note jacks
- the current approach to the chart as it stands is not something that I believe is queue-worthy

Jingle Bells (Bass) {Basshunter} (Psychotik)
Rating: 7/10 [+?]

- offset changed from -0.045 to -0.050
- 6.639: another synth note here to make seven consecutive 32nds, should you choose to follow it
- 44.621/48.050/51.478/etc: what are these jumps for?
- 54.050: with kicks generally being ignored in this section, making this either three Ls or three Ds will be a bit more friendly to newer players while still getting your relevance across (it also gives more attention to the cymbal crash on [LR] a moment later)
- 1:07.978: should be 32nds starting here for the kick coming in (also, having it a 323 is a bit of a spike compared to the rest of the section)
- 1:35.192: misplaced mini-jack (it should connect into the 4th note, not out of it)
- 1:37.192: pay attention to situations like these, where you can get accented mini-jacks out of the melody as well
- 1:39.907: and, make sure youíre catching all repeated notes in your chart structure, itíll make for more relevance in your chart (however, if you must avoid them, then remove the mini-jack that occurs at 1:54.764)
- with a song that has such a prominent melody, you could definitely work it out to be a bit more accurate. Comb through it again and make sure youíre covering your bases on all things arenít arguable omissions.

Killing All Your Aggressions {Doormouse} (ositzxz369)
Rating: 8*/10 [+.*]

- offset changed from -0.140 to -0.145
- around the minute mark, perhaps a bit later, your jump usage seems to get a lot looser than earlier, sometimes becoming unclear
- some pretty good effort to get rhythms correct early on, itís been noticed
- 2:11.428: add a BPM change to make the note at 2:11.484 fall on a 4th note, as the chart goes to blue note syndrome from this point forward without any discernible reset in percussion structure
- what a weird song and chart
- conditional queue on BPM fix for last bit of the chart
- chart is actually quite solid, might be one of the best things Iíve seen from you so far

South for Winter {The Flashbulb} (Ghost_Medley)
Rating: 7.5/10 [+.]

- the motif of anchoring to a note on the 16ths could definitely be flipped around a bit more than you had been doing, particularly earlier on (changed off of R at 5.771, then back on again, etc)
- omission at 1:00.642 feels a bit strange
- not a fan of the structure at 1:11.515 that features added jumps, which seems to come as a result of the lower piano actually striking subtle chords - the issue with this is that the volume of those lower chords arbitrarily increases/decreases, but thereís no real way to arbitrarily accommodate for that in your structure: youíre either bumping up the layering, or youíre not.
- with that being said, chart is acceptable as it is.

Unborn Baby {Venetian Snares and Speedranch} (ositzxz369)
Rating: 8/10 [+.]

- I hate this song and want to reject it purely off of the song itself and nothing else
- again with the BPM changes that donít need to happen: an offset of 0.660 with a BPM of 218 will do fine; itís ok to have colored notes for ad-lib/lyrics, so long as the conclusion of them resolves with whatever youíre following actually properly timed (do this change after applying any notes)
- 6.908: this is an extremely difficult transition
- 23.973: considerable spike in difficulty here
- that burst at 23.973 is really offputting compared to everything else and I very nearly conditional queued it off of that alone but I donít think itís impossible to execute personally, so itís alright
- out of all of the things youíve submitted, this is by far the worst songwise; fortunately for you, itís got respectable execution

Xímas Night {Silvia} (Psychotik)
Rating: 6/10 [?]

- 8.165/etc given that you use repeated notes at 8.992, the 8th at 8.165 and the note following it should be the same
- 11.062/etc: additionally, be sure that youíre applying repeated notes appropriately for maximal relevance; this is an instance that should not be repeated at all (note: the repeating U-R-L is a nice touch, just donít have the two U taps).
- 30.717/etc: this note actually doesnít represent the melody and repeatedly misrepresents the melody throughout this bridge
- 53.062: the snares here are actually not 16ths; theyíre 12ths - at least up until 55.131
- in general, relevance can be improved substantially; the chart doesnít need to have perfect pitch relevance to the point where the structure gets overly redundant and boring; patterns can be better oriented to represent the melody better. For example, at 31.648/34.959/38.269 - you properly represent the three repeated notes in that particular area of the phrase, yet you miss the third repeated note at 1:02.062/1:08.683, and generally break convention at 1:04.752 (yet follow it at 58.131, etc).
- there are a lot of instances of repeated notes that arenít quite clear as to why theyíre exist, which makes the structure a bit more messy particularly in the last minute of the song
- layering is generally alright, but relevance to the song itself can be improved to make things a bit more interesting and better as a whole

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fvrex - Shining Star: please submit to the regular batch, this was holiday only.
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- pitch relevance detail can be improved as a whole
Is there one or two specific points you'd like to point out? I really curious which points felt the most egregiously incorrect. I'll get around to checking all the notes and sending fixes on Wednesday.
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South for Winter {The Flashbulb} (Ghost_Medley)
Rating: 7.5/10 [+.]

- the motif of anchoring to a note on the 16ths could definitely be flipped around a bit more than you had been doing, particularly earlier on (changed off of R at 5.771, then back on again, etc)
- omission at 1:00.642 feels a bit strange
- not a fan of the structure at 1:11.515 that features added jumps, which seems to come as a result of the lower piano actually striking subtle chords - the issue with this is that the volume of those lower chords arbitrarily increases/decreases, but thereís no real way to arbitrarily accommodate for that in your structure: youíre either bumping up the layering, or youíre not.
- with that being said, chart is acceptable as it is.
Made changes as suggested, as well as doing a tiny things with patterning in the file.
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Is there one or two specific points you'd like to point out? I really curious which points felt the most egregiously incorrect. I'll get around to checking all the notes and sending fixes on Wednesday.
Absolutely.

Disregarding the intro, here's some detailed and reasonably glaring instances:

- 38.052/38.330: these two jumps can be flipped
- 46.849: this note here actually ascends to a note that's higher than the U at 46.571, so something like R-U would be better for continuity/accuracy
- 55.182: the note before this 12th is the same pitch (same as 55.738 and the note before it)
- 57.497/57.960: same column, but different notes (in fact, something that can be done starting from 57.219 with your rhythms being preserved is L-D|U-L|D-R| [12ths] because notes 1/4, and 2/5 are the same pair of notes, but 3/6 are accented and separated)
- 1:37.893: the guitar note that plays when this [LD] is hit is a different note from the previous one, so breaking these off will look better visually
- 1:53.608: same jump flip as 38.052/38.330
- 1:57.682: the note that falls on this [R] is different than the previous one (also, with some reworking, you can better capture the pitches on the following quarter notes starting at 1:58.330).
- 2:04.719: this note's different than the previous note you caught with the repeating [R]

There are others you might be able to improve, but these were some of the more glaring instances that I picked up at 100% speed.

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- that being said, jump usage feels a bit strange even with the omissions to me, with the exception of the chorus areas which have a bit more attention to everything in general
Agreed, I ended up adding jumps to those bass kicks throughout. It'll pump up the difficulty a tiny bit, but it feels better now.

I also fixed everything else mentioned, including some of the patterning here and there, so hopefully it flows a bit better. Uploaded the fixes.

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- 1:39.907: and, make sure you’re catching all repeated notes in your chart structure, it’ll make for more relevance in your chart (however, if you must avoid them, then remove the mini-jack that occurs at 1:54.764)
Fixed them up as much as I could. Fixed everything else you mentioned as well. Uploaded the fixes.

I'll get around to looking at Fake Santa tomorrow, I don't have the energy right now.
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- 1:37.893: the guitar note that plays when this [LD] is hit is a different note from the previous one, so breaking these off will look better visually
Was this the wrong timestamp? There weren't any notes at that time in the chart. though I did see something near that time that applied, so I did end up fixing it.

I fixed pretty much everything from your notes. The chart should be a lot more pitch relevant now (fixed what you mentioned but I also combed through the rest of the chart and fixed some other sections). The copy/paste sections were changed up for some variations without disturbing the PR much. I got rid of all the minijacks except the very last one because I still think it fits (I hope you agree). I also reworked the beginning and adjusted the sync.

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Have all been fixed according to notes and moved to accepted.
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Hasn't been looked at yet, these were prioritized due to being Xmas releases.
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