Go Back   Flash Flash Revolution > Flash Flash Revolution > FFR Events > Tournaments
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-2-2012, 08:00 PM   #441
Anaru
Banned
FFR Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 1,530
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

A billion restarts later..

Anaru is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:00 PM   #442
wildfireskunk
Purveyor of tea
FFR Veteran
 
wildfireskunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Age: 37
Posts: 1,247
Send a message via AIM to wildfireskunk Send a message via MSN to wildfireskunk Send a message via Skype™ to wildfireskunk
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_ator View Post
No problem Zenith. And wildfire, I'm looking at an 80% rollover rate, but it's not really set in stone yet as I haven't applied it to anyone. If I start applying this to people for the next round and 80% isn't working (or if you guys find flaw with that now) then it is subject to change.
Okay, thanks a lot for the info! I don't see why that would be a problem, since the limits don't allow huge gains unless certain people who can play 100,000x can also consistently get good scores on 1.0x higher than their usual XD
__________________
ITG guru, FFR noob, wants to hug every cat.

wildfireskunk is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:00 PM   #443
Zakvvv666
I catch fruit
FFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Zakvvv666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Meadowview, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 2,861
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Thanks for clearing things up Justin, things make more sense now.
__________________



Quote:
Originally Posted by reuben_tate View Post
I'll bid a single erotic yet safe-for-work photo of me posing while wearing my Piplup hat while sucking on a blueberry lollipop with my mouth partially open so you can see the lollipop color to verify it's blueberryness.

Disclaimer: This photo is not guaranteed to cause pleasure.


Zakvvv666 is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:20 PM   #444
dragonmegaXX
ITG playing fur
FFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
dragonmegaXX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 3,660
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Question: Say I consistently get good scores on a song using my normal speed mod, and someone else usually gets AAA's with a speed mod that's higher than their usual. Does that mean that in a higher round (like an FGO round) that if I manage to pull an SDG and they get like 20 goods, they can still beat me since bonus points "carry over if they get an AAA"?
__________________
dragonmegaXX is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:29 PM   #445
wildfireskunk
Purveyor of tea
FFR Veteran
 
wildfireskunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Age: 37
Posts: 1,247
Send a message via AIM to wildfireskunk Send a message via MSN to wildfireskunk Send a message via Skype™ to wildfireskunk
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX View Post
Question: Say I consistently get good scores on a song using my normal speed mod, and someone else usually gets AAA's with a speed mod that's higher than their usual. Does that mean that in a higher round (like an FGO round) that if I manage to pull an SDG and they get like 20 goods, they can still beat me since bonus points "carry over if they get an AAA"?

In theory they could, but they'd have to have a lot of bonus points carried over in order to do that. I guess in later FMO and FGO rounds, if someone AAAs a song on quite a different speedmod you might see numbers like 500 or so be carried over (although I'm sure it'll be limited to something *reasonable*), in which case they'd have quite a buffer and could beat you. But you could always come back with a speed mod bonus of your own to counteract that.


Edit: Example. A song with 1500 notes. If someone was to AAA it on 0.35x faster than the one they called their default, then they'd gain an extra 525 points of which a % would be carried over. I don't think that the 525 would be counted in the current round, so if you AAA'd it on your default speedmod you'd just draw with him. But he'd start next round with an advantage of maybe 400 or so points, so if he got 20 goods then, the 400 points would bring him up to a 4 good score.

I might be wrong though. Justin will surely tell me if so ^_^
__________________
ITG guru, FFR noob, wants to hug every cat.


Last edited by wildfireskunk; 01-2-2012 at 08:33 PM..
wildfireskunk is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:40 PM   #446
justin_ator
🥓<strong><span style="col
Resident Overseer
FFR Veteran
 
justin_ator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 7,648
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaru View Post
A billion restarts later..

[high fmo AAA picture]
In all honesty I pity the situation I've put you in, but I can tell you are above the D5 level. That's a wonderful score man, congrats. Also, can I ask why you don't actually use the restart key? Instead of closing the window? It does basically the same thing and you can map the button to whatever you want in the settings menu.

Sorry, didn't see that post before I answered (@dragonmega)

Theoretically you could be beaten in an FGO round by a 20 good score if they had enough carry-over points, but what you have to keep in mind is that rollover will become less and less likely as the chances of a AAA score get harder and harder to manage. If you read the last part of my last post, I said that rollover is applied AFTER the other points, and EXTRA rollover that isn't needed DOES NOT carry over again. So pretty much, in order to beat you with 20 goods in an FGO round, someone would have to get a massive rollover (AAA with a decent speedmod change, most likely) in order to get an amount that would help them THAT much. Since it's raw you can look at it in terms of accuracy:

A 200 point rollover is 4 free perfects, basically, added to your score. So if you got 1003-7-0-0-0 and they got 990-20-0-0-0, it would go like this:

Your raw is: 50325, their raw is: 50000 + 200 = 50200. You would still win, and rightly so (I'd bet money that unless they are really skilled people won't be getting >200 rollover on the really hard songs after the conversion between ratios and the 20% cut.

EDIT: wildfire is correct, but is forgetting the conversion ratio between songs, since they have different raw max's most of the time.

Double Edit: Only time will really tell...I'll be sure to check some of the rollover before moving into the next round, and see if that value needs to change.
__________________

Last edited by justin_ator; 01-2-2012 at 08:46 PM..
justin_ator is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:57 PM   #447
Guest15937
One-handed elite
FFR Veteran
 
Guest15937's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,464
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

How is that a billion restarts anyway? The Best Rank is 0, so doesn't that mean it's a sightread?
__________________
The renegade has betrayed me.
Guest15937 is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 08:59 PM   #448
Im Vince
Allez Montréal!
FFR Veteran
 
Im Vince's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Quebec
Age: 30
Posts: 819
Send a message via MSN to Im Vince
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest15937 View Post
How is that a billion restarts anyway? The Best Rank is 0, so doesn't that mean it's a sightread?
When you restart (closing tab or pressing restart button) your score does not record. That's why he had rank 0.
__________________
AAAs: 817
Difficulty 66+ AAAs: 35
Best AAA: Nomina Nuda Tenemus (81)
Im Vince is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 09:14 PM   #449
Magicturbo
Beatrix~
FFR Veteran
 
Magicturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,508
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Incoming noob question... Where's the restart button T____________T

Edit: Actually... it's pretty much what Anaru said...
__________________
Magicturbo is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 09:16 PM   #450
Im Vince
Allez Montréal!
FFR Veteran
 
Im Vince's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Quebec
Age: 30
Posts: 819
Send a message via MSN to Im Vince
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Velocity engine
__________________
AAAs: 817
Difficulty 66+ AAAs: 35
Best AAA: Nomina Nuda Tenemus (81)
Im Vince is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 09:17 PM   #451
justin_ator
🥓<strong><span style="col
Resident Overseer
FFR Veteran
 
justin_ator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 7,648
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Ah, forgot it is only Velo's engine...I'm sorrrrry lol

(in the middle of an update, I'll let you know when I'm done)
__________________
justin_ator is offline  
Old 01-2-2012, 10:24 PM   #452
justin_ator
🥓<strong><span style="col
Resident Overseer
FFR Veteran
 
justin_ator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 7,648
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Blah, that blows.

Just so everyone knows, Anaru has permission to use p.nano, his first account, to submit scores in order to preserve his AAA/game ratio if he doesn't think he can AAA the song within the week.
__________________
justin_ator is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 12:21 AM   #453
Hateandhatred
"The Quebec Steparatist."
FFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Hateandhatred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Age: 33
Posts: 1,947
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Derp, will try to lower my speedmod even more, but I'm bored of this song =(

__________________
Hateandhatred is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 04:20 AM   #454
jprox445
FFR Player
 
jprox445's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 532
Default Re: New Years Tournament!




This was a bitch to obtain... -_-
jprox445 is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 04:20 AM   #455
MikeShinoda12345
*\(^o^)/*
D7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
MikeShinoda12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
Age: 27
Posts: 1,889
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

lolk I'm down with the flu

one try, might do a few later but this score is decent, this fever's got my eyes feeling irritable, and finals are next week. placeholder, if you will
MikeShinoda12345 is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 04:23 AM   #456
justin_ator
🥓<strong><span style="col
Resident Overseer
FFR Veteran
 
justin_ator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 7,648
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Should be decent Mike, you've still got non-submitters as of right now and yeah.
__________________
justin_ator is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 04:49 AM   #457
MikeShinoda12345
*\(^o^)/*
D7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
MikeShinoda12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
Age: 27
Posts: 1,889
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

btw all these spreadsheets and stuff :O
nice work, man
MikeShinoda12345 is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 05:15 AM   #458
FontSize72LOL
☆~{2D <3}~☆
FFR Veteran
 
FontSize72LOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: World
Age: 33
Posts: 833
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

__________________



Get Kancho'd


FontSize72LOL is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 05:31 AM   #459
Hateandhatred
"The Quebec Steparatist."
FFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Hateandhatred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Age: 33
Posts: 1,947
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

__________________
Hateandhatred is offline  
Old 01-3-2012, 12:15 PM   #460
prefx
FFR Player
 
prefx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta
Posts: 805
Send a message via AIM to prefx Send a message via MSN to prefx
Default Re: New Years Tournament!

Work started, busy as hell, I'd like to turn light blue plox. Playing for fun D4 to D6?
__________________
Someone make me a cool siggy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrRubix View Post
Like, grind2 feels like what would happen if Dead and Direct had sex with Frictional Nevada and had a sick, warped lovechild on crack, and then that child took an epic dump on your lawn. That dump = grind2
Second Place in D4 of Popsicle_3000's Christmas Spectacular GG Megamon
prefx is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution