~D4 Rivalry v2~

[TheSaxRunner05]

I don't like the idea of giving advantages to better players. Some of my best ranks so far have been the songs that I've picked. If the better players are always picking the songs, they will continue to have an advantage. Also, the point of this thread is to comparing scores of people of similar skill, screwing up each other's scores seems to cloud this objective and once again the better players will use this to the advantage to put the weaker players even lower. Plus, people don't always have time to go replay a song on a whim because someone 'blasted' your score. I have a newborn kid and I have to make time to play. I may not get to play for a good part of a week at a time.

Pretty much, all of the ideas in your post benefit the stronger players to further suppress the weaker scorers. I just want to compare scores and be ranked by raw score each week.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

I pretty much agree with TheSaxRunner05. Using the points we earn to lower someone else's score doesn't seem fair because all of us are at different skill levels. I like the idea of using our points for bonuses, but your proposal seems to only benefit the most skilled D4 players.

[axith]

Well, there's some serious negative feedback on the messing with your opponent's score idea. I suggested it under the idea that it would mostly be the more skilled d4 players using the ability against other more skilled d4 players.

I was just hoping to find an actual use of points. They seem pretty arbitrary at the moment. I spent a good chunk of the afternoon trying to come up with 'fun' things to do with them. Honestly, creativity's not one of my strong points. Any suggestions with something to do with them would be entertained. Thanks for past and future feedback.

Honestly, it'd help my more automated spreadsheet if I didn't have to worry about playing with points. I don't want that to stand in the way of some awesome idea.

[TheSaxRunner05]

I suggested the points basically to have a rank total to compare how your scores fared against the other players. Maybe starting from this week, someone could make a "trophy" banner for the sig for most cumulative total points. It could say something like "D4 Rivalry 1st Place" and have banners for 2nd and 3rd as well. The problem would be that A) someone would have to make the banners and 2) they might change week to week and people aren't always quick to change banners and such. Those are some pro's and cons.

Can anyone else think of another use for points, other than comparing how we rank against each other? Maybe sig badges for reaching certain amounts of points?

[James May]

How about none of those silly stuff and just remove the points total and just have the weeks won and use that as the main point system...

[TheSaxRunner05]

Originally Posted by James May

How about none of those silly stuff and just remove the points total and just have the weeks won and use that as the main point system...

So that people other than the top three people can compare to each other too, that's why I suggested it in the first place.

[axith]

Originally Posted by James May

How about none of those silly stuff and just remove the points total and just have the weeks won and use that as the main point system...

I think I'd rather get rid of the "Weeks Won". The point totals do a lot of talking on their own so I don't think "weeks won" is necessary. I do like the point milestone idea, but we would need a graphics person (unless people love the look of stuff made in Paint).

Changing the points system was something that would happen if the points were going to be used for something other than general comparison between participants. It doesn't seem like the few vocal people are interested in quirky uses for the points. I'm not going to change the way points are totaled under the current circumstances.

Second to last opinion question of the week: Should the point totals carry over from previous weeks or do we start with fresh point totals this week? Please PM me your vote.

Last opinion question: Songs for next week should be suggested. I'm pretty sure pants was suggested already. That means we need 5 more songs. I believe that's all I have to say right now.

[James May]

Pants (79)
Dead and Direct (74)
Mahou no Oshigoto (73)
Gotta Catch 'em All (73)
Carol of the Bells (69)
Gravity Blast (69)

Those are my suggestions for next week.

[TheSaxRunner05]

I would mind having both a weekly and a cumulative point total, let me know if you need help calculating it.

My suggestion for next week is Parousia. (Sp?)

Oh, if I get seconday pick, it would be Chipscape.

[shenjoku]

Originally Posted by James May

Pants (79)
Dead and Direct (74)
Mahou no Oshigoto (73)
Gotta Catch 'em All (73)
Carol of the Bells (69)
Gravity Blast (69)

Those are my suggestions for next week.

We've already done two of those previously. Do we really want to do them again so soon? I think it's way too early.

As for the whole points thing, I've never really cared too terribly much about them. I'm mainly here just to compare scores and to stay motivated to keep playing this game and get better.

[James May]

That's how you spell Parousia yes. finally a good file you suggested sax lol

Wait, which two shenjoku?

[shenjoku]

Gotta Catch 'em All and Gravity Blast.

[James May]

Originally Posted by shenjoku

Gotta Catch 'em All and Gravity Blast.

Oh. Replace gravity with Parousia and gotta catch 'em all with chipscape?

[shenjoku]

@MracY: I don't suppose this counts >.>

http://i.imgur.com/JpHZJqu.png

[James May]

Originally Posted by shenjoku

@MracY: I don't suppose this counts >.>

http://i.imgur.com/JpHZJqu.png

You get an A for effort (clap)

[MracY]

Originally Posted by axith

I'm not going to change the way points are totaled under the current circumstances.

It is better to give extra points for gaining 1st, 2nd and 3rd place.
That still works for a comparison between players, but also gives incentive to get higher rankings on songs.

In my opinion it is fine to do just the tournament thing once in a while, and be done with everything. There also tend to be many players willing to donate credits, so there would also be no problem there.

If you want to have people be able to spend points on songs, then make the price around 100 points, and make it so that 30% of credits over 100 will degrade every week. There can be an additional price of 100 credits to revoke someone's pick.

If you do that, just save up people's points every week, and make a monthly tally or so.
An overall tally of points is meaningless because of skillboosts in-between.
You should be able to automate most of this.

[VisD]

Hi James, can we not do Pants please

Seriously, fucking Pants, it's a "4k 6 year long arrow dump on a song"

[TheSaxRunner05]

One does not simply whore pants.

I know if it's on next week list, I'm not playing it more than once.

How many credits is pants anyways, isn't it a secret song?

[EzExZeRo7497]

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

One does not simply whore pants.

I know if it's on next week list, I'm not playing it more than once.

How many credits is pants anyways, isn't it a secret song?

50,000 credits I think? I wouldn't recommend Pants either way... I think Gunkienen would be a better choice haha.

[shenjoku]

How about now? >.>

Devilz Staircase: http://i.imgur.com/zzJ3KYI.png
Phantom Ensemble: http://i.imgur.com/absiaqi.png
Summer Time Perfume: http://i.imgur.com/HH9AaB4.png
Twelve: http://i.imgur.com/Yq7KIUJ.png

EDIT: Or now? <.<

http://i.imgur.com/tN0hwl3.png