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Old 10-16-2012, 04:55 AM   #101
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I'll take some time to respond to some of this.
You may be far to much set into your own way of stepping. I'd have to argue you simply haven't figured out why each white note exists where it does. It's a tactical use of what I would say is emphasis. But think of this: if Resh couldn't explain it, he more than likely wouldn't have done it.

I know that the white notes are there to emphasis certain sounds, it just looks bad and distracting. To me it's like a 192nd mini freeze arrow on SM, just because you can put it there doesn't mean you should.

The trills are worse to start off, and also, the gallops make sense. I don't see the issue here other than the later mentioned part where you mention they're kinda random.

I'm talking about this part specifically it's a retarded good trap and I don't see the need for this gallop. (look at the combo to see where in the chart specifically) (Starting on that yellow)


I gotta give you that they appear randomly, but the patterns are fine. Much better than other charts that came out even recently, which will remain nameless.

They shouldn't just appear randomly, they should be at least consistent if you're going to step them at all. Throughout the whole song i hear triplet triplet triplet triplet triplet triplet but he goes 8th note 8th note 8th note 8th note 8th note 8th note OH time to step some triplets.

Subjective. I'll keep using them where they fit as I see fit as long as I can justify it. I think it's honestly like I said earlier, using emphasis. In this case we're using color and not layering to emphasize sounds.

As long as people keep doing this I'll most likely play to AAA and then never play it again.

I'm sorry but, what's a jumpthrill? If you mean the anchor trills then: Yes because you certainly have never done worse nor seen worse. As much as I dislike the patterns I can't argue that they're out of place. They fit here fairly well.

It's a thrill composed of jumps. And as you put it the anchor thrills go to the music as they should, but as a stepartist you can at least not be a noob about it and decide to put some other pattern that is more fun.

I would need this in dream to be sure, but I think the sound he's stepping in particular is off sync. It is just really weird to chart, but it doesn't look nor do I remember it feeling off sync. I actually remember liking the ending.

I'm pretty sure he stepped this in ddream, but i can guarantee my 5 years of experience playing says that the ending is off sync.

Trust me it's hard, most people can't do it. I'm certainly among them as of right now. But then again, so are/where a lot of the even more popular steppers like say Behanjc (Radio Heads) Dore (DSoK / Bloodmeat / Grocery Jack Plan) Rebirth (MaxX Forever / Club / Blooddrunk [Heavy]) and this list could go on. The idea is to experiment and find a style you like which to be honest, I can't say I think you've tried because all I've ever seen are jumpstream dumps from you. Minus Etude On a Nimbus of course.

Here's the thing though, Reshiram isn't new to making stepfiles.
As for me not experimenting here have some vids. And personally I think if you don't think Etude on a Nimbus is a jumpstream dump it's because it's easier and caters to your skill level whereas I normally make jumpstream dumps for my skill level





Edit: 1 more vid because this one is actually for FFR

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Old 10-16-2012, 05:00 AM   #102
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Why do you spell it thrill? ._.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:07 AM   #103
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Why is the offset of both Eth and Milky Blue off by an 8th?

And yeah, stop calling it "thrills"
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:12 AM   #104
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Why is the offset of both Eth and Milky Blue off by an 8th?

And yeah, stop calling it "thrills"
you mean the arrows start aparantly 1/8th a note after the music starts? if that's the case probably youtubes lags fault
if you mean i use blues for reds, then that's just how i step sometimes, since i use default noteskin it doesn't bother me, you still get the same note set
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:17 AM   #105
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Unlike charts like Undiscovered Shit,
I gotta admit, I lol'd pretty hard here.

And for what it's worth, I think Gravity Blast is crazy fun. Who cares if it is stepped perfectly.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:22 AM   #106
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how did this file get in the game? because people like it and it's fun. assuming/demanding that your opinion is the only generally accepted way of stepping is lol
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:33 AM   #107
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Undiscovered Colors is the only dump I actually enjoy.. good music + I can do well on it for some reason. Only part I don't like is the first 50% lol
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:36 AM   #108
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I hate every file released after 2008 anyway
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how did this file get in the game? because people like it and it's fun. assuming/demanding that your opinion is the only generally accepted way of stepping is lol
I didn't say my way is right, and I didn't say his way is wrong I said his way is bad.

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Considering I had to play Gravity Blast with sound off due to the white note abuse, yes, it is bad usage. Icyworld is right, there is a difference between wrong and bad.

A more recent file I had to play with sound off is Jack The Ripper. Because of the white notes, I had to turn sound off and go through the eyesore of converting the steps into jumps, 8ths, or whatever.

Any file I have to play with sound off because of white notes is a terrible use of it. Color theory and emphasis is very easy to abuse and in cases like these it makes the chart an eyesore to play. I like how Icyworld mentioned the thing about default noteskin -- the 192nd usage doesn't matter since they land on the same color on default, so you can just play it normally. When I play gravity blast, I suddenly get turned away from the file and no longer care about what it's supposed to be emphasizing. Instead I'm always looking for any upcoming 192nds. That is never fun.
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Lets complain more about a file that was queued for nearly half a year (for obvious reasons) and was only released in the tournament to fill in a gap.
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I would need this in dream to be sure, but I think the sound he's stepping in particular is off sync. It is just really weird to chart, but it doesn't look nor do I remember it feeling off sync. I actually remember liking the ending.

I'm pretty sure he stepped this in ddream, but i can guarantee my 5 years of experience playing says that the ending is off sync.
The ending isn't offsync per se, but stepped unexpectedly to the tail end of the shooting sounds. The sound goes something like "BWoooooosH BWoooooosH" and for some reason, he decided to step the "sH" end of the sound which is slightly emphasized. I would've preferred stepping the beginning of those sounds instead. Hope that clears up the confusion about the ending.
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I just saw this.

It's fine if you don't like my file for Gravity Blast, but it's pretty bad etiquette to deliberately bump a thread to sit here and bag on it. I'm not gonna even sit here and justify my designs because I don't feel it necessary. I stepped the file how I saw it, and you know what, looking back I wish I had used a wider array of colors other than just white on those sounds. But I didn't, what's done is done and it's in game, so deal with it.

My two cents.
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