FFR Playing Style and Hand Position Guide

[customstuff]

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

Rolls and staircases are easier on index?

No way.

Yes way. For me atleast. Why, do you play index?

[Xandertrax]

No, I play spread, and rolls and staircases are wayyy easier for me when you have a finger on each key.

[customstuff]

Well index is really good for them aswell as spread. I'm sure that it is hard to do rolls one hand though.

[RB_Dreamscanner]

Zagerons page strecthing sig FTL.
Nice guide, your sisters fingers are hot, i'd tap 'em.

[EnR]

Index? Btw, for spread, a lot of ppl use (<v86) left and down from keypad, 8 and 6 from num pad.

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

Only things that are easier with index are jacks, trills, and PA, IMO.

Running Man XD

Btw, maybe you can't do rolls index cuz your not good enough at index rofl.

[Zageron]

Yeah. I've mentioned the Right Down 8 6 combo somewhere. I gotta get my camera out again. xD

[skishmonkey72]

A little more editing, seeing as you've added on since the last time I was here.

Debatable but, Easiest style to...

It's debatable, but this is the easiest style to...

Debatable but, Jumpstream, is only masterable

It's debatable, but Jumpstream is only masterable

Lawn Wake 4 and... [Fill in Fast Song Here >.<],

To get really technical (probably too technical, sorry), it's Lawn Wake IV. And... FOTBB and OMW are fast songs, but I'm not sure if you're looking for a specific kind of fast or just fast in general... or if you're going to leave it like that, then you should probably remove the ">.<" and make it "[Fill in fast song here]

Unfortunately, through the masses of people playing with spread

Unfortunately, because of the masses of people playing spread...

Rolls and Staircases are easier than some other styles

Rolls and Staircases are easier than in some other playing styles. Although I have never played index, it seems unlikely because rolls and staircases are hard one-handed, and in the worst case only one finger has to switch keys, whereas in index, both fingers are switching keys all the time, vastly increasing room for error. I think rolls and staircases would be the hardest for indexers to master. But, I can't say that, because I've never tried index. Indexers, what do you think?

Starting out will bump up performance immediatley

immediately. I'm also not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean. Unless customstuff meant: "Starting out playing index will bump up performance immediately. In that case, we could say the same is true with spread.

Four Fingers

When I briefly tried four fingering before I made this account, I played on the arrow keys, kind of like this, but with left index on left arrow, left middle on up arrow, right index on down arrow, and right middle on right arrow. This was the most comfortable and least crammed position for me, but then again, I may be alone in this.

Easy to FC with.

Easy to FC songs with.

I noticed you had highlighted some terms from the picture dictionary in blue and linked others, but left others in plain text. I would suggest some sort of consistency throughout the whole post. It could be just highlighting, just linking, or linking the first occurence of each term, then highlighting the rest. Finally, you could just link the first occurence of each term then leave the rest as plain text.

EDIT: You finished editing the index section before I finished posting this. Good job.

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by skishmonkey72

I noticed you had highlighted some terms from the picture dictionary in blue and linked others, but left others in plain text. I would suggest some sort of consistency throughout the whole post. It could be just highlighting, just linking, or linking the first occurrence of each term, then highlighting the rest. Finally, you could just link the first occurrence of each term then leave the rest as plain text.

Yeah. I'm linking/highlighting them as I come across them. I am only linking the ones that will be understandable with only a picture. (Patterns)

Whew. xD

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[demonllama6124]

i play 3 fingers hands. with just the arrow pad, i have my index finger on both hands run the left up and down, and the right middle stays with the right arrow

[swordmasterz]

Am I like the only one that has a problem with hand coordination when it comes to spread and index? >_>

[gnr61]

The only things that are DEFINITIVELY easier index than spread are:

one handed trills
runningmen
a few minijack patterns involving one hand

you cannot possibly say rolls are easier index than spread, because spread gives you the finger positioning to roll very fast and efficiently while indexing them would require twice the speed. of course someone who plays index, not spread, would have an easier time with rolls/staircases, but it's ONLY because they aren't good at spread.

i challenge you to MA a 200 bpm 32nd roll or staircase index. its impossible. with spread, however, its not only doable, but hardly a challenge.

[RB_Dreamscanner]

I CAN play all styles, i choose not too, but still alot of effort was put into this. Reallly good Zageron.

[mike2727]

I play as kl spread Nice diagrams zaggy

[dore]

whoa whoa whoa

Rolls are EASIEST with spread. 1-handed has an advantage on jumpjacks and index has an advantage on trills and jacks (and debatably jumpjacks), but that's IT.

[skishmonkey72]

Originally Posted by dore

whoa whoa whoa

Rolls are EASIEST with spread. 1-handed has an advantage on jumpjacks and index has an advantage on trills and jacks (and debatably jumpjacks), but that's IT.

I agree about rolls on spread. Just logically it makes sense. Also if rolls are easier, staircases should be easier, considering they're alternating rolls in opposite directions.

1-handed has advantages? Wow, I didn't know that. :P

[dore]

Yeah, I play AIM Anthem 1-handed lol. It's easier to coordinate two fingers on the same hand than two fingers on different hands.

[skishmonkey72]

Yeah, I play AIM Anthem 1-handed lol. It's easier to coordinate two fingers on the same hand than two fingers on different hands.

Probably because 1-handed jumps (especially jacks) are 90% wrist movement, and since the fingers are on the same wrist, they generally hit at the same time. Following this theory, jumps should be easier to PA one-handed, but they're not usually. I guess because jumps are harder to execute (especially series of different jumps), but when executed, it's much easier to PA them and not hit one arrow slightly after the other. The exception would be some people who do the 28/82 jumps with only their middle finger. Since many one-handers (usually beginners) hit the 2 and 8 arrows with their middle finger in all cases, they're used to hitting one after the other, so it becomes harder to hit them at exactly the same time until you adapt. Even then, after a while, most people get used to it.

EDIT: Zageron, when's your estimated finishing time?

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by skishmonkey72

Probably because 1-handed jumps (especially jacks) are 90% wrist movement, and since the fingers are on the same wrist, they generally hit at the same time. Following this theory, jumps should be easier to PA one-handed, but they're not usually. I guess because jumps are harder to execute (especially series of different jumps), but when executed, it's much easier to PA them and not hit one arrow slightly after the other. The exception would be some people who do the 28/82 jumps with only their middle finger. Since many one-handers (usually beginners) hit the 2 and 8 arrows with their middle finger in all cases, they're used to hitting one after the other, so it becomes harder to hit them at exactly the same time until you adapt. Even then, after a while, most people get used to it.

EDIT: Zageron, when's your estimated finishing time?

I'm caught in a tight little spot. Ether on the last day of December, or early February. I have Zero time in January to do anything but study I'll get back to working on this.

Remember input is needed, don't take my word for truth if you know otherwise

[Kekeb]

You don't even explain index at all.

[Zageron]

Originally Posted by Kekeb

You don't even explain index at all.

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Originally Posted by Zageron

BE PATIENT I'M NOT DONE. I JUST NEED THE FULL SCREEN EDITING.

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Please help me. Give me a good definition of Index. :P