The election

[DossarLX ODI]

I'm going to leave this video here. This guy sums up some lessons from this election very well in my opinion.

[choof]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

He changed his stance on that and said he wants to keep some of it.

i sincerely doubt this given his first 100 days thing and the fact that republicans won all three major things

[IamMe90]

Originally Posted by choof

i sincerely doubt this given his first 100 days thing and the fact that republicans won all three major things

I actually wouldn't be surprised if he decides to keep the provisions that allow children to stay on their parents' health plans until age 26 and prevent insurance companies from denying coverage to those with preexisting conditions; from what I can tell, they've enjoyed a fairly bipartisan support among the electorate.

The exchanges themselves are definitely going ka-put though, and most likely medicaid expansion as well.

[DotKritic]

Originally Posted by IamMe90

ka-put

FUBAR.

[G.S.M]

I did not support either candidate but honestly having Trump make a fool out of the news and such was fantastic. Not that it's hard...

By the way, everyone is going to be fine. You're all fine.

[andy-o24]

Does the lame duck period for Obama start now until January whenever? I did quite poorly in my government class because I simply don't care.

-o24

[L.B.D.D]

Braindeadx69

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by andy-o24

Does the lame duck period for Obama start now until January whenever? I did quite poorly in my government class because I simply don't care.

-o24

if you listen to congress he's been a lame duck ever since reelection

but actually, this is also the time for him to make any last-ditch efforts he can muster from purely executive power. reversing things could reflect badly on trump

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I'm going to leave this video here. This guy sums up some lessons from this election very well in my opinion.

Saw this on facebook. Good shit.

There was no politics here people, just good old sociology.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by G.S.M

I did not support either candidate but honestly having Trump make a fool out of the news and such was fantastic. Not that it's hard...

By the way, everyone is going to be fine. You're all fine.

this is easy to say but I have very close friends who have literally received death threats over their perceived race/religion

since Wednesday

[choof]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this is easy to say but I have very close friends who have literally received death threats over their perceived race/religion

since Wednesday

tell those close friends to start carrying things to defend themselves with

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by choof

tell those close friends to start carrying things to defend themselves with

yeah of course but I'm just saying that "you're all fine" isn't as realistic as it might sound

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Sanjixcon

I have friends of all different races/religions and neither I or any of them has ever received a "death threat". What does that even mean? Like what exactly did they say? I'm gonna kill you because you're ______ race/religion? Lol.... yeah that just seems really weird to me... I mean it's America 2016. If it was said on the internet who cares, was probably just some dumb kid or old racist person raging on the keyboard. People are so over dramatic these days. "You're all fine".

It absolutely fucking happens in real life, and I'm glad you haven't had to experience it, but "people are so over dramatic these days" really? People are scared for their fucking lives here.

I have a friend who works at the supermarket and was wearing hijab and was told, and I quote, "If Trump gets elected I will kill you"

And I didn't witness this happen, I'm relying on what they told me, so if you want to say "lol that never happened, go back to Tumblr", here are some things I HAVE witnessed since the election

* A confederate flag hung on the walls of a prominent mosque on Wednesday
* A person shouting "leave the country" to my Muslim friend (in public!)

I live in Atlanta, so it's not like these behaviors are limited to rednecks in the Midwest.

More sources:
https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/20...180840470.html
http://www.complex.com/life/2016/11/...ection-victory

[ifeelit]

lol im with sanji, plus, why start drama or these type of forums here of all places where u know ur gonna stir up sh*t lol lets just smash some keys

[DaBackpack]

are you two the same person?

I'm not tryna stir up drama, my point is just that if it was just that Trump was elected I wouldn't be -horribly- worried, but it seems like his election has emboldened closet racists to do terrible things

[Rapta]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I have a friend who works at the supermarket and was wearing hijab and was told, and I quote, "If Trump gets elected I will kill you"

That seems like it's not what it seems.

Given the lack of any logical sense it would make to kill someone just because of Donald Trump being elected (laws regarding murder obviously won't change), it would make sense to think that he is in his own world of delusions. I think, that due to the sudden bandwagon of outspoken hatred driven by individuals believing that Donald Trump wanting to deport all Muslims was abhorrence towards terrorism, murder, and torture in the name of God (which is often believed to be ONLY by Muslims), they ended up generalizing their hatred. The hatred is due to misconceptions or just plain ignorance. Donald Trump caused it, but not on purpose. Humans, ESPECIALLY older people, make mistakes. Donald Trump isn't used to the constant publicity and needing to speak in front of thousands/millions can really screw with you and cause you to say what you mean but with bad phrasing. He doesn't want his citizens killing each other after he's become The President, but he can't help it because of the slip ups he's had with his phrasing. I live with two Donald Trumps (my parents who are in their high 60's), who hold similar beliefs. I notice that a lot of the time, they talk but they speak in such misunderstand able ways that if I didn't read between the lines I would hate them for their views on life. This is what I believe.

On another note, I heard an interesting line from GradeAunderA, (while on a random video spree), which I would like to have discussed. He stated that hypocrisy was in the air because the Clinton supporters rioting so heavily contradicted the common thought they supposedly had when Trump said he wouldn't concede should he lose the election. Hillary Clinton conceded, amiable, I must admit, but everyone protesting currently contradicted their own beliefs that the loser should concede by rioting because the one they rooted for lost. What do you think of this?

Jeez I spent an hour on that post.

[IamMe90]

Originally Posted by Sanjixcon

I have friends of all different races/religions and neither I or any of them has ever received a "death threat". What does that even mean? Like what exactly did they say? I'm gonna kill you because you're ______ race/religion? Lol.... yeah that just seems really weird to me... I mean it's America 2016. If it was said on the internet who cares, was probably just some dumb kid or old racist person raging on the keyboard. People are so over dramatic these days. "You're all fine".

You live in a fairly liberal part of the country, so I'm not surprised you haven't experienced this. Also, whether or not you've experienced or witnessed a death threat does not mean that they do not happen. They do, they are reported on, and sometimes they result in death.

Originally Posted by ifeelit

lol im with sanji, plus, why start drama or these type of forums here of all places where u know ur gonna stir up sh*t lol lets just smash some keys

This is a thread about the election. Electoral politics are almost inherently dramatic and certainly contentious. If you don't want to deal with drama, maybe don't post shit in a thread about US elections?

[bmah]

Hey Sanjixcon/ifeelit, even though this isn't a critical thinking thread, it's still not a Skype chatroom either. Also, you're welcome to disagree with other people's viewpoints, but your dismissive tone is something you should set aside. That in combination with the myriad of low-content posting just dilutes the conversation - a conversation that many others do take seriously.

[rayword45]

Originally Posted by Rapta

On another note, I heard an interesting line from GradeAunderA, (while on a random video spree), which I would like to have discussed. He stated that hypocrisy was in the air because the Clinton supporters rioting so heavily contradicted the common thought they supposedly had when Trump said he wouldn't concede should he lose the election. Hillary Clinton conceded, amiable, I must admit, but everyone protesting currently contradicted their own beliefs that the loser should concede by rioting because the one they rooted for lost. What do you think of this?

Jeez I spent an hour on that post.

The only people I see who care about the fact that she lost specifically (as opposed to caring about Trump winning) care about the fact that she won the popular vote by what's estimated to be a record high margin, which you can argue however you please about our current electoral system.

The remainder (and majority) of people rioting were probably in the Sanders-turned-reluctant-Clinton camp, and are more concerned about Trump's rhetoric or the implications/aftermath of someone with such a rhetoric winning than concession. I also don't think any of these people predicted or expected Trump supporters to accept a Trump loss peacefully FWIW.

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by bmah

Hey Sanjixcon/ifeelit, even though this isn't a critical thinking thread, it's still not a Skype chatroom either. Also, you're welcome to disagree with other people's viewpoints, but your dismissive tone is something you should set aside. That in combination with the myriad of low-content posting just dilutes the conversation - a conversation that many others do take seriously.

Thanks.

I'm not particularly invested myself, but still.