jTWG LXXXIII Game Thread

[Funnygurl555]

i see many of you are wolf reading me. notice how i've been mislynched a lot despite having a recent town streak in twg.

adapt the way that you read me. you're wrong again, and it's really annoying for always being mislynched for being myself

[Funnygurl555]

*to always be mislynched for being myself

[flashflash account]

Getting ready for a job interview so I can't really talk but I think stars case on wayward holds weight and charu being so wrong sucks

[flashflash account]

Will elaborate soon, but my vote from Jessie isn't changing

[Antori]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

What? Are you basing this entirely on my seer checking fg as town and then her calling me town for seer checking her green? Because outside of that I don't think I've interacted with her like, at all.

i thought all seer checks for d0 were just gags am i still missing out on some hidden skill for the seeker?

[Antori]

also we have both ffa and vegabond claiming to be seeker so one of them has to be wolf right?

[Antori]

i dont know why flashflash would be voting for jessie if that's the case and to be honest i might just vote for flashflash if he doesn't defend his seeker position.

unless of course on of them was just a gag and everyone except me got it cuase i seem the only on who's noticed this

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Antori

also we have both ffa and vegabond claiming to be seeker so one of them has to be wolf right?

Pretty sure the claims are jokes. If they were both legit claiming seeker though, then yeah, that would be really likely

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

OOTC: Off, excepting wolfchat. Wolves may communicate privately at all times

@ffa explain how jess would behave the way she did if she has a wolf chat

[Funnygurl555]

oh wait, also good luck with the job interview ffa!!

[Antori]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Getting ready for a job interview so I can't really talk but I think stars case on wayward holds weight and charu being so wrong sucks

gl on the interview!

[flashflash account]

I neither claimed to be nor denied being the seer. I simply said I wouldn't provide seer cover this game.

Also interview over, it went okay but not amazing I think

I'll be at a computer in a half hour

[Antori]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I neither claimed to be nor denied being the seer. I simply said I wouldn't provide seer cover this game.

Also interview over, it went okay but not amazing I think

I'll be at a computer in a half hour

ah sorry i misunderstood seer cover, i still dont know what it means though

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

i can never tell when you're lying and it frustrates me. wv, why do you think eaman is town?

Originally Posted by flashflash account

currently leaning jessie as town- angleshooty-wise she's a bit less likely to have a wolfchat with someone. More importantly her frustration at wayward/fg feels natural and even though it stems from a misunderstanding I think that makes it all the more likely to be real



On the other hand looking back, funnygurl's reaction to wayward's greencheck feels really pockety

in hindsight this is bad of me because assuming that somebody would ask questions regarding seer cover in wolf chat is dumb, especially given that it's a natural progression from her frustration towards wayward

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

Just wanted to say that this quote: "I like to think of it as achieving a level of purity others will never experience" made me lol

I do feel like the likelihood of rolling town 8 times in a row is low though.

*waiting for eaman to comment about how often I roll bad characters in games like this*

we've already talked about this, it happens to everyone, NAI

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

eaman shying away from voting someone doesn't feel like town eaman to me. as bad as I am at reading you, this feels off.

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

disregard my last message (for the most part).

only for the most part? Does FG still feel off to you?

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

antori

gonna place my vote here rn bc their vote is still on no lynch, which I find strange. If they actually vote for someone, I will consider changing my vote.

this is wolfy
like inD said, it reads as a policy lynch almost but also just the phrasing "I will consider changing my vote" feels like jess is afraid to put pressure on someone.

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

I'm trying to find wolves by thinking about the way I typically play wolf, which is to bring as little attention to myself as possible, usually by not bering very accusatory or divisive in my voting. In short, antori's decision to vote no lynch feels like a move I would make as a wolf.

so you typically try to bring as little attention to yourself as possible. Like leaving the option to change your vote open?

I would change my vote if they decide to actually vote for someone because I want to know what they actually think about the other players in the game rn. If they show me that they're doing that, then I'd be willing to cut them some slack for now.

If I were to pick someone other than antori, I'd probably vote star-crossed at this point just for pure statistical reasons. 8 games as town has be incredibly unlikely...

That's actually a reasonable motive for voting, but according to your self-meta, it's still exactly something wolf you can do.

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

hear me out though. I think it is important for town to not only vote but to see how everyone else votes. I want to see more of antori's thoughts about the game, so I'm applying pressure to make that happen the only way I can. I think voting people up to get information can be a very useful town tactic tbh. Feel free to disagree.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I think I can solve jess later, not a good lynch imo
never voting antori or charu or star
would be comfortable with a wayward lynch because I don't think I can solve him

solving jess
not solving wayward
ama

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

honestly, the whole jeffano situation feels fishy to me. I can't pinpoint who is def wolfy there, but everyone who jumped on jeffano is sus to me. mainly bc it felt like jeffano was an easy target for wolves to latch onto.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

all two people
very sketchy

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

two people with not great reasoning

I'll get back to this in a free-thought followup post

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

woah you voted! I'm true to my word so unvote I would like to hear more of your thoughts on the game in the future.

once again wolfy because her options were to lynch jeffano and save herself or what she did, unvote and 50/50 it

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Actually, Jessie not voting to save herself is compelling

Originally Posted by flashflash account

logically it would mean jeffano is worth saving over her but emotionally it means she's town and believes jeff is town? But she also thinks jeff is fishy?

I'll also address this

Originally Posted by inDheart

jessie

i liked our interaction, but the pressure vote thing has carried on a lil too long

you ended up being town what r u doin

Originally Posted by jessiebessie

voting IS important, but i made a promise

overall the antori situation fits her self-described wolf meta perfectly. She's trying to avoid bringing attention to herself and this plays into the EoD situation.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I disagree with you on jess. At first I had the same thought, but she knows jeffano irl and I think that's causing complications to the situation.

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

ok jess is town lol

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

i think anyone who voted for jefanno last EOD should be looked at. y'all shoulda known better than to off someone WITHOUT TREPIDATION when they could be a PR. i should cut antori some slack since he's new, but also i'm getting the same newbie wolf vibes that jess is getting.

i don't think eod made star look any better.

oddly i like ffa, but yeah it was still a bad idea for him to leave a vote on jefanno



yeah it's pretty unfortunate

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

jess isn't doing the thing where she fakes attempting to solve the game to seem townie and detract attention from herself, which is the basis of my town read on her. if i'm wrong, then that'll hurt. i think it's unlikely and won't be voting for her in a while, though. also, she was working on an app for something all day, so it makes sense why she was away from the game for today too

as for me "dipping" instead of interacting today, honestly i was having the shittiest day, so i slept early. you guys decided to interact itt while i was asleep/avoiding the thread to not be a pissy person

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

i see many of you are wolf reading me. notice how i've been mislynched a lot despite having a recent town streak in twg.

adapt the way that you read me. you're wrong again, and it's really annoying for always being mislynched for being myself

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

@ffa explain how jess would behave the way she did if she has a wolf chat

fg posts gross I can't even address the last one because jess' behavior doesn't make sense if she *isn't* a wolf

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Antori

ah sorry i misunderstood seer cover, i still dont know what it means though

So seer cover is where everyone names a check: the seer says their actual check and everyone else drops a fake check. So WV said that he got a green check on me. If WV dies and flips seer, then I'm probably actually green. If he does and doesn't flip seer, then he was just faking it.

Seer covers are useful because they a) make it more difficult for wolves to know who the real seer is and b) allow the seer to drop hints in the thread.

In the case of this game, seers don't get N0 checks, so WV was just messing with people.

[flashflash account]

jess only has strongish interactions with two players in this game- antori and jeffano. She knows jeffano IRL which, as I said before, causes complications to the EoD situation.

Jess herself says as a wolf she tries to avoid attention, avoid being accusatory. Her entire behavior day 1 was to pressure vote someone then dismiss an entire wagon as "fishy" without commiting to it in any way.

Not voting to save yourself, in a vacuum, is NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE- it only means she had a strong belief that Jeffano was town in this particular instance. The seer does not get a d0 check, therefore jess only could have known jeffano was town if she was a wolf.

Wolf jess here doesn't vote for jeffano despite being in a kitb with him. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but neither does the world where town jess doesn't vote for him. You trade off the knowledge of him being town vs the self-preservation importance for wolves. Remember, jess said that she thought the jeffano situation was fishy- she didn't clarify what she thought about jeffano, but it certainly didn't sound like she was confident in him being town. The burden of knowledge is clear. Jess is a wolf.

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

fg posts gross I can't even address the last one because jess' behavior doesn't make sense if she *isn't* a wolf

It's more likely to do what she did at EOD as town. She is less likely to care about dying and she doesn't have another wolf harping on her in her DMs.

Not doing self-pres is always a bad move, though. @@@@@@jess lol

[Funnygurl555]

I don't think jess and jefanno know each other IRL either y'all. I just know them both from school.

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

I don't think jess and jefanno know each other IRL either y'all. I just know them both from school.

oh- then this makes my point even stronger

[jessiebessie]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

My two biggest suspects both flipped town in a single cycle, I need to reevaluate.
I don't really like Jess' behaviour at end of day which brings me to another point
After intentionally causing a kitb and overall being pretty scummy why would ind have been chosen for the nightkill? It feels out of left field to me

I was wondering this as well. It would have been easy for wolf team to pin suspicion on inD, but they chose to kill them instead. Strange choice tbh.