TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[MixMasterLar]

God that took too long damn

It's a good response and but I wish you'd go into a little more detail on how you like InD and Cel on that wagon

InD was an early voter and I kinda get that but I don't get Cel looking too good from that.

Everything else you pointed out is fair enough; the bit about Tri moreso

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Sorry, next time i'll provide less detail for your bitchass.

Gotta type fast

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

God that took too long damn

It's a good response and but I wish you'd go into a little more detail on how you like InD and Cel on that wagon

InD was an early voter and I kinda get that but I don't get Cel looking too good from that.

Everything else you pointed out is fair enough; the bit about Tri moreso

I don't particulary like their wagon votes, I like their general play. Their posts show they are thinking critically about the game, which is more then a base level wolf does.

[MixMasterLar]

noted.

[Celirra]

@DarkManti can you elaborate more on the Tokzik read? I think I'm missing something.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Celirra

@DarkManti can you elaborate more on the Tokzik read? I think I'm missing something.

To expand on this, I know you gave some baseline reasoning, but got any more to go off of?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Sorry, I read tokzic's first post (below) as agreement with Roundbox's vote on Tiloco, might have misread the "roundbox trending way upward" as agreement with the tiloco vote.

Originally Posted by roundbox

tiloco

arm wrestle me, fuckers

Originally Posted by Tokzic

roundbox trending way up for me towards the end of this phase

I have to be wrong here due to the last post of tokzic saying tiloco is town.

Originally Posted by Tokzic

this is gross

tiloco is town

get off

Tokzic back to neutral, but why post tiloco is town that hard?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Tokzic has otherwise been fairly towny to me, but I would nominate him as a very good candidate for a deep wolf. He's playing with an enthusiasm that I haven't seen in some time. Maybe it's the weed, but I would strongly encourage any investigative ability to look into Tokzic.

This piece is bugging me.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

This piece is bugging me.

Think it's signs of Tokzik wolf targeting him?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Roundbox only really gave out one wolf read in tiloco and two half wolf reads in mml trending down and tokzic playing a "deep wolf"

Tiloco killing roundbox seems dumb, but tokzic killing him to stop the read from progressing seems possible.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Tiloco killing roundbox seems dumb, but tokzic killing him to stop the read from progressing seems possible.

So... Tiloco and Tokzic aren't w/w unless Tiloco is playing the sacrificial lamb?



I can buy into the tokzic theory...

but honestly I am a bit reluctant to follow a wagon led by you after the Light mislynch. I'd want to hear other opinions first.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Celirra

So... Tiloco and Tokzic aren't w/w unless Tiloco is playing the sacrificial lamb?

I don't know why Tokzic would post that Tiloco is town if they were W/W. I think I'm falling away from the W/W theory. I need to dig into their posts again.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

It was universally Panne'd

Originally Posted by the sun fan

universally Panne'd

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Panne'd

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Roundbox, you are Panne. You are Vanilla Town

Originally Posted by the sun fan

You are Vanilla Town

[MixMasterLar]

Well on the subject of Tokzic being a wolf:

Occam's Razor says that wolf who wanted to be on the sidelines was scrambling to save wolf partner from being CFD'd to death is likely then any w/t combo you can name.

If Tokzic was a wolf he could have been trying to claim who he thought would actually be lynched as town so when the actually flipped as town he'll look all the better for it. That's not an uncommon strat to try and pull EoD. Note how Tokzic didn't have any real progression on why he believed Triloco was town---he waited until people where bailing out of the LightKnightTrain before putting his foot down.

The trick is determining if Tokzic ever really had progression on Triloco. I guess I'm about to ISO him and find out.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I also find it weird how tokzic was in the thread, agreed with roundbox on the tiloco read, and then sat on DBP the rest of the phase. Like, don't you move over to tiloco if you agree with the read and tiloco is a lynchable candidate? Could see tokzic/tiloco W/W pair.

/Wagon thoughts

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I never agreed with Roundbox on Tiloco. I agreed with Roundbox on Freezin. I quoted his vote on Tiloco and said "whoa". Not sure how you construed that as an agreement. I don't have a strong scumread on Tiloco right now, it's more of a lean.

And fuck yeah I sat on Dbp, I wanted to see him lynched. I still do - Dbp's reaction to pressure felt very much like his reaction to pressure in my last encounter with wolf DBP.

[Tokzic]

oh nice is the current subject of discussion me being a wolf

[Tokzic]

didn't expect that to be huge, but pleasantly surprised that it is

[MixMasterLar]

Ok then that was pretty quick. Tokzic has 53 post. His first was page 13 and his last was the infamous "Triloco is town get off post" we all know.

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To Freezin:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

my read on you is that there is 1-2 wolves in the set of [freezin , dbp , tiloco]

in response Freezin's post that at least two are town:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

do you think it is more likely that set is t/t/t

In Response to Freezin saying that if he had money he would bet that in Vegas:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

i think they're bad odds

Keep in mind that he had a vote on DBP at this time and had already said Freezin was reminding him of his wolf game---

Originally Posted by Tokzic

looked at this reaction again and starting to wonder if backpack's onto something

been seeing some potential parallels to the last game i played with wolf freezin (i.e. high emotion, edgy doubts, staying active but out of the spotlight)

----and criticized Freezin's consistency ---

Originally Posted by Tokzic

this post does not feel like it jives with these follow-ups

--- making it seem like of the three he liked Tri the best. I can't find him saying that he slanted him town, though. He never comes close to saying straight out that Tri is town.


This is the most progression of reads concerning Tri before Tri's rushed reads list, which Tokzic commented about:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

this line earned a bunch of town points holy shit

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For the record I disagree that the post he was talking about at the end there deserves town points. Tri is literally saying he is running out of time and will give us less content then plan. That's pretty non-indicative.

[MixMasterLar]

Oh Tokzic ninja'd me ok. Oh wait----

Originally Posted by Tokzic

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I never agreed with Roundbox on Tiloco. I agreed with Roundbox on Freezin. I quoted his vote on Tiloco and said "whoa". Not sure how you construed that as an agreement. I don't have a strong scumread on Tiloco right now, it's more of a lean.

You're leaning Tri as wolf?

Where did this come from

[DarkManticoreX2]

Post 1167 tokzic