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Old 11-27-2011, 12:18 PM   #501
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@who_cares: That will be determined once the community agrees with the requirements! In all honestly, there will be a lot since in the current TP system, Jimerax limit it to 120 songs but in this system there is no limit because the number will update every 3-4 months the day this system is implanted!

@Community: Here is the VC list! IMO this list is the one we struggled with the most so I am expecting this to have the most errors however we did put a lot effort into this so do not think that we did not! As always, if you have any suggestions/thoughts, do not be afraid to mention them!


1. Vertex BETA [1755 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. Tamashii [1132 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 12 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. Blue Army [3330 Combo] [VERY LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Classical Insanity [1101 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. None Would Escape [1372 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Balloon Fever [970 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. Counter Strike Gun Sounds [502 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Katharsis [1121 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. K8107 [1071 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Purple [498 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Pwntendo [1144 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Starlight [709 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. Adult's Sketchbook [869 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. X-Tinction [744 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 3 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. Extreme Dishwasher Race [1007 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 12 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Finder Keepers [1113 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Garyuutensei [1168 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) [1462 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. Twelve [1135 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Nebula [she] [1244 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Fake Jazz [895 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Fast Asleep [665 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Szamar Madar [1094 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. Lune Noir [746 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. Sirius [1169 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

26. UNknown Girl [1268 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

27. Gene Gadget Zone - Act 1 [1400 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

28. Feldschlacht [1783 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

29. Aztec Templing [962 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

30. Lunar Saturation [1095 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

31. Ievan Polkka [917 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

32. System Failure [1191 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

33. M.A.M.A. [1263 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

34. Southern Cross [2123 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 250 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

35. Slaytronic [1096 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

36. Infiltration [1337 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

37. Mysterious Desert [956 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

38. CRASH the BEAT! [1927 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

39. Witches Hat [1290 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

40. Sympathizer [1928 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:42 PM   #502
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Wow, looks great. I am sitting on the edge of my floor.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:06 PM   #503
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A little idea about how FFR's TP page could be organized...

At the top it would say something like this:
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Tier Points: 937/1294 (865 + 72 bonus)
After that, it would look a lot different, because each difficulty and the bonus would appear separately. So something like this:
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                Bonus Points:  72/100

       Difficult Song Points:  64/ 64
  Very Difficult Song Points: 104/105
     Challenging Song Points: 138/138
Very Challenging Song Points: 227/267
For Masters Only Song Points: 246/364
  For Gurus Only Song Points:  84/226
For Stepmen Only Song Points:   2/ 30
Maybe we could add a % to each one, too. (Color coded?) Anyway, clicking on one of these would open up the list of songs in that difficulty, with the requirement that you achieved so far, and then (like in the current one) clicking a song would show all of the requirements for that song. As for the bonus points, I'm thinking that it would show your current number of AAAs (clicking on it would show them all) and then a few lines showing how many you needed to get to your current number of points and how many you will need to get the next few points. So for instance:
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You have 702 AAAs (613 public, 89 token).

(75)- 730 AAAs +28
(74)- 721 AAAs +19
(73)- 711 AAAs +9
(72)- 701 AAAs (702)
(71)- 691 AAAs
What do you guys think? (PS: All these numbers are made up, the real ones should be very different.)
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:40 PM   #504
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What do you guys think? (PS: All these numbers are made up, the real ones should be very different.)
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:46 PM   #505
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Can the 5pt req on We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) be 9 goods instead of 5? I feel like 5goods->1good isnt much of a difference, but 25goods->5goods is pretty darn huge.

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A little idea about how FFR's TP page could be organized...

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Very neatly organized TP stats
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Can the 5pt req on We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) be 9 goods instead of 5? I feel like 5goods->1good isnt much of a difference, but 25goods->5goods is pretty darn huge.
Fixed! I also fixed a few of them with sightly big gaps! (:
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18. We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) [1462 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 60 or fewer <-- point reqs start failing here
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song
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18. We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) [1462 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 60 or fewer <-- point reqs start failing here
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song
Fixed! (:
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:38 PM   #512
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I really like how the staff is really open to suggestions
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I like how I'm one under max TP on pretty much every song on that list (save for Slaytronic, Unknown Girl, and K8107, the last one of which can gdiaf).

Inside it makes me go HNNNGH, but on the outside, I have to agree that they test a wide range of skills.
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Inside it makes me go HNNNGH, but on the outside, I have to agree that they test a wide range of skills.
well thats the intention of all this, isnt it? , otherwise we could keep the actual tierpoint system tho xD
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Pssssssst, you still have Metamorphosis spelt incorrectly in the VD list.
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Chaoz Japan is spelled incorrectly as well.
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Actually, that is the way it is spelled!

@Community: It is safe to finalize the VC list or should I give you guys a few more hours?
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So late for this but I really don't understand how you can include M.A.M.A. but not CP. I know that M.A.M.A. is a least consistent in difficulty, but it's not even a "real" file (in the sense that FFR is a 4-key game, a file using only three keys shouldn't even be put into it). While CP is insane ridiculous, it's the only song (as far as I'm concerned) that tests the skill of "vibrating." Pretty much all the other songs are just wrist jacking.
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