An Appeal To Reason - Page 2

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by talisman

And of course there are things more immature than walking away... my point is that there are things more MATURE than walking away as well.

Like what? Stand there and do nothing? Let me know how that works next time someone who wants to beat the crap out of you comes around the block.

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Originally Posted by talisman

Kilga, what can I do to convince you?

There's nothing you specifically can do. I suggest you stop trying.

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Originally Posted by talisman

Do you want it to die?

Doesn't matter to me, I play at a0.com and DDRFreak as well. FFR would be no loss, just like BMS has been no loss.

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Originally Posted by talisman

Can't you just put your personal feelings aside and play the game?

No.

HansSky · 07-22-2005, 09:39 AM

Grr...this is retarded. I don't necessarily disagree with the people pulling this charade, as I understand exactly how I feel. But then again, all I want to do is PLAY. Whether it be with or without Tass, I don't care.

JurseyRider734 · 07-22-2005, 09:41 AM

I was so prepared, too. >_>

**talisman** · 07-22-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kilga

Like what? Stand there and do nothing? Let me know how that works next time someone who wants to beat the crap out of you comes around the block.

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Originally Posted by talisman

There's a solution to this problem beyond being a dick and canceling the game for everyone: it's called IGNORE HIM. STOP CARING about the way he plays. Focus on the content of his posts, not his attitude. You don't have to be friends with him to play with him. Treat him like what he is... just another guy on the internet.

and tass isn't trying to beat the crap out of us... so your analogy makes no sense.

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 09:46 AM

The problem is that he acts like an ass. Any possible solution would have to involve him no longer acting like an ass. As you can see, your solution is not viable, because it does not stop him from acting like an ass.

**talisman** · 07-22-2005, 09:50 AM

The problem is that you people CARE that he acts like an ass. I just want you guys not to care so that the game can continue.

It's not like people are refusing to play with tps for turning in all his fellow wolves that one game, that was pretty ass. Or chardish exposing tps in the first place anyway, that was pretty ass too.

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 09:53 AM

No, the problem is that you're annoying us because you think the problem is us caring that Tass acts like an ass and not that he actually acts like an ass.

Solution: Shut up, you're not going to fix anything.

JurseyRider734 · 07-22-2005, 09:56 AM

Let's all hold hands and get along -_-

We can just play this game +Orli -Tass

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 09:57 AM

Funny, I could've sworn I mentioned that on the previous page. Or at least hinted at it.

**aperson** · 07-22-2005, 09:58 AM

In Latin an appeal to reason is called logos!

**talisman** · 07-22-2005, 09:59 AM

No, the problem is...

but seriously, I respect your position but I fail to see how someone's behavior on the internet can bother you this much. I guess we're just different people.

Is there room for compromise? A good sportsmanship rule of some kind?

Afrobean · 07-22-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

I was so prepared, too. >_>

Sorry.

I plan on TWGing at a0 next game, so FFR TWG falling apart doesn't bother me as much as it should. I suggest anyone who wants to play (except Tass, duh) should do the same, or find a similar loction to TWG at.

JurseyRider734 · 07-22-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kilgamayan

Funny, I could've sworn I mentioned that on the previous page. Or at least hinted at it.

I also IM'd it to you last night/this morning.

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by talisman

Is there room for compromise? A good sportsmanship rule of some kind?

If that were to prevent Tass from acting like an ass, then I'd be all for it and would play.

HansSky · 07-22-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aperson

In Latin an appeal to reason is called logos!

Legos?

flypie743 · 07-22-2005, 10:04 AM

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I respect your position but I fail to see how someone's behavior on the internet can bother you this much.

Let's say you were playing mafia IRL. Someone started acting like an ass..the way Tass acts. Would you play with them anymore? Most likely not. The same thing can be applied here. Tass' behavior just makes us not want to play TWG with him. You seem to be taking it to the extreme ("bother you this much"). It's not like we're quitting the forums all together because of him.

whorlichan · 07-22-2005, 10:08 AM

Guys, you're going by faulty logic here. There isn't GOING to be a game anytime soon where I sign up before him--because I have full-time work, full-time class (yes, in the summer too), and loads of stuff to do that takes precedence over TWG. I'm sorry, but my grades and my paycheck are slightly more important to me at this point.

Tass has a job, but he doesn't work the hours I do. He also has no classes till the fall. He wants to play, and has the time to put into it. Stop being so childish. If you don't want to play with Tass, don't. But stop whining about it.

In the fall, BTW, I will have 18 hours of in-class time per week (with an extra 10 hours for traveling to school), with a recommended 54 hours needed to prepare and do homework for my retardedly difficult classes, plus 20-30 hours of work, which leaves exactly 8 hours a day for me to do other stuff...some of which I hope to spend asleep. I don't know when I'm going to have time to eat, much less play.

JurseyRider734 · 07-22-2005, 10:12 AM

Heartbreaker.

**talisman** · 07-22-2005, 10:13 AM

I don't know about that flypie, I've never played mafia IRL... but whatever.

here's a proposed compromise... I suggest other people think of their own:

A good sportsmanship rule:

Basically, if TWC decides that someone is acting like an ass to the extent where it's affecting the game they ban that person for a game. Or something. This wouldn't mean that you couldn't brag in the post game thread or anything, just that if TWC sees it going too far, they can ban you. And the definition of being an ass could be applied to anything... inactivity, making moogy-style posts, bragging alot, whatever.

There are obviously flaws to this... mainly dealing with enforcement. But it's a start.

**Kilgamayan** · 07-22-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by whorlichan

If you don't want to play with Tass, don't. But stop whining about it.

Who the hell has been whining? That's exactly what we've been avoiding doing because it's stupid and wouldn't help our case at all. Note flypie's post at the top of the second page.

None of us care whether or not Tass plays. He's free to do so. We're just not going to play in the same game as him.

07-22-2005, 09:39 AM	#22
HansSky FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ----> Age: 36 Posts: 1,925	RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason Grr...this is retarded. I don't necessarily disagree with the people pulling this charade, as I understand exactly how I feel. But then again, all I want to do is PLAY. Whether it be with or without Tass, I don't care. __________________ hi

07-22-2005, 09:46 AM	#25
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason The problem is that he acts like an ass. Any possible solution would have to involve him no longer acting like an ass. As you can see, your solution is not viable, because it does not stop him from acting like an ass. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

07-22-2005, 09:50 AM	#26
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason The problem is that you people CARE that he acts like an ass. I just want you guys not to care so that the game can continue. It's not like people are refusing to play with tps for turning in all his fellow wolves that one game, that was pretty ass. Or chardish exposing tps in the first place anyway, that was pretty ass too.

07-22-2005, 09:53 AM	#27
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason No, the problem is that you're annoying us because you think the problem is us caring that Tass acts like an ass and not that he actually acts like an ass. Solution: Shut up, you're not going to fix anything. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

07-22-2005, 09:57 AM	#29
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason Funny, I could've sworn I mentioned that on the previous page. Or at least hinted at it. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

07-22-2005, 09:58 AM	#30
aperson FFR Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 3,428	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason In Latin an appeal to reason is called logos! __________________

07-22-2005, 09:59 AM	#31
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason No, the problem is... but seriously, I respect your position but I fail to see how someone's behavior on the internet can bother you this much. I guess we're just different people. Is there room for compromise? A good sportsmanship rule of some kind?

07-22-2005, 10:08 AM	#37
whorlichan Tiny Plastic Meat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Valley, Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 669	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason Guys, you're going by faulty logic here. There isn't GOING to be a game anytime soon where I sign up before him--because I have full-time work, full-time class (yes, in the summer too), and loads of stuff to do that takes precedence over TWG. I'm sorry, but my grades and my paycheck are slightly more important to me at this point. Tass has a job, but he doesn't work the hours I do. He also has no classes till the fall. He wants to play, and has the time to put into it. Stop being so childish. If you don't want to play with Tass, don't. But stop whining about it. In the fall, BTW, I will have 18 hours of in-class time per week (with an extra 10 hours for traveling to school), with a recommended 54 hours needed to prepare and do homework for my retardedly difficult classes, plus 20-30 hours of work, which leaves exactly 8 hours a day for me to do other stuff...some of which I hope to spend asleep. I don't know when I'm going to have time to eat, much less play. __________________ Goddess of Chocolate Sauce First ever graduate of the Quetzacoatino Academy for Aspiring Deities My lame LJ My friend Cassie's amazing photography

07-22-2005, 10:13 AM	#39
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: Re: RE: Re: An Appeal To Reason I don't know about that flypie, I've never played mafia IRL... but whatever. here's a proposed compromise... I suggest other people think of their own: A good sportsmanship rule: Basically, if TWC decides that someone is acting like an ass to the extent where it's affecting the game they ban that person for a game. Or something. This wouldn't mean that you couldn't brag in the post game thread or anything, just that if TWC sees it going too far, they can ban you. And the definition of being an ass could be applied to anything... inactivity, making moogy-style posts, bragging alot, whatever. There are obviously flaws to this... mainly dealing with enforcement. But it's a start.

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