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Old 08-13-2017, 10:15 PM   #1
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Question Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

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Does a better Hertz monitor make you better at the game?

60hz (what I use) is probably the worst right, but having a judge offset makes it better. To be honest I find that people that are good at the game use 144 hz or 240 hz.

Can I also ask what is your monitor Hz at and what division are you?

I'm a simple low tier division 2 but I'm gonna practice. Is having a high hertz monitor considered cheating?
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:24 PM   #2
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

I'm D6 with 59-60hz and I do believe I'm just flipping a coin for certain AAAs. I don't believe I would get D7 with a 144hz+ monitor, but I do think I could move up to lvl93~94 for the simple reason that the gameplay is more smooth and it's going to cut a part of the random goods due to occasional choppiness.

It's worth trying, but I would need to adapt to it as well to really tell how much it can help.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:28 PM   #3
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I'm D6 with 59-60hz and I do believe I'm just flipping a coin for certain AAAs. I don't believe I would get D7 with a 144hz+ monitor, but I do think I could move up to lvl93~94 for the simple reason that the gameplay is more smooth and it's going to cut a part of the random goods due to occasional choppiness.

It's worth trying, but I would need to adapt to it as well to really tell how much it can help.
It also depends on response time, using a wired keyboard to a 60hz monitor is way better than wireless. Can't argue with that

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Old 08-14-2017, 06:27 AM   #4
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

ffr caps out at 3 fps anyway so what could it possibly matter
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:01 AM   #5
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144hz or bust
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:47 AM   #6
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lmfao I can't believe this fucking thread
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:05 PM   #7
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Is having a high hertz monitor considered cheating?
As long as one person's hands are entering the inputs on a keyboard and the judgements of those inputs are not made more lenient than standard settings, you can do whatever the hell you want lol

Steroidmanias anyone??

also old shitty 60fps monitors work best btw, at least they do with sm3.9 and legacy ffr engines

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Old 08-14-2017, 12:07 PM   #8
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the real secret no one wants you to know is that the pro players actually use dance pads as well as a keyboard, for extra key taps per second
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:13 PM   #9
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also old shitty 60fps monitors work best btw, at least they do with sm3.9 and legacy ffr engines
dynabro use etterna already, ya idjot >:\
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:36 PM   #10
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120hz w/ lightboost gave me a large skillboost when I got it and 60hz looks horrible now
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:38 PM   #11
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

I've always used a 60. Just bought a 144, and I don't notice a difference.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:37 PM   #12
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

having more hertz doesn't really matter all that much. only thing it does is make the notes move along the screen more smoothly. I can see this making a difference with higher scroll speeds and more dense files, but at lower skill levels it shouldn't really matter. FPS can be a bigger factor than simply how many hertz you got. more frames mean you have more chances to hit the note within the note timing. of course more frames means screen tearing which can be helped by having more hertz on your monitor.

so really, it COULD help, and i would get a better monitor if you can, but its most certainly not required to be "good".
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:02 PM   #13
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60 and it really shouldn't make a difference
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o i thought this thread was about stepmania
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:25 PM   #15
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I've always used a 60. Just bought a 144, and I don't notice a difference.
Did you change your framerate in-game to 144+ ?
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Did you change your framerate in-game to 144+ ?
No idea lol
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My acc is worse on 144 but my speed is better
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

I honestly think it is more on a case-by-case basis. I always found 60Hz no problem at all on FFR. Different people have different reactions to higher refresh rates. Since I play at high scrolling rates, I find higher refresh rates easier on the eyes due to a smoother experience.

On SM, I could argue for higher refresh a bit considering I can actually see each's note's general image as it's refreshing on the screen and that bothers me immensely in dense note patterns, esp in clusterfuck JS/HS.

TBH, what you should be MORE worried about/focused on is the response rate of your monitor as that can be far impacting than the refresh rate. It's not hard to adjust timings to counterbalance response rate but it's still a pain, imo.

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That's strange. My acc and speed is a hell of a lot better at 144. It's kind of the reason why I've been able to AA, AAA, SDP, etc. songs I could never have hoped to do even a year ago. I guess I just react better to a smoother experience.

But I also don't play FFR anymore soo~~~
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Default Re: Does a Better Hertz Monitor give a slight advantage over FFR?

People who are good at the game have higher refresh rates because having a higher refresh rate is noticeable, can result in improvements due to it being noticeably different, and there's games for which a higher refresh rate is strictly better.

I firmly believe that FFR and Stepmania are not among them.

While there's definitely something to be said for smoothness resulting in a better reading experience, rhythm games simple aren't "every millisecond matters" games, and far more is attributable to practice, audio cues, motor feedback, and chronoception combined than you could hope to gain by just slightly improving visual feedback.
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