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Old 05-29-2007, 09:07 PM   #41
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:19 AM   #42
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I'm pretty sure they decreased the HP of the carrier to a manageable amount. Rushes or carriers weren't the only ways to win anymore.

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Carriers arn't any weaker. Carriers are for noobs and the only reason people used carriers back then was because they were bad at the game and there was very little theory behind how the game should be played...so it could be won with noob tactics. I mean, AMD_Grr was a professional gamer in the early days of SC and tended to try for carriers most of the time, but once the koreans started developing some game theory this simply never worked and people that used carriers got wiped out fast >_>

Maybe 5-6 high templars and some goons will wipe the floor with a set of 20 carriers. Alternatively a set of 12 templars with a group psi storm could wipe those carriers out in about 5 seconds. Goliaths wipe the floor with carriers easily as well.

And noone in their right mind will EVER make carriers against zerg >_> The only time they're appropriate at all anymore is against terran late game, mostly because toss has nothing else to stop terran from steam rolling them into a pancake with 200/200 in tanks, so at least carrier makes them make some goliaths.


Zeal rush is also one of those classic tactics that is almost never used anymore either, mostly because cybercore tech is far superior. Most hypermodern play now goes straight to fast expo with cannon+gate block using toss. This was developed mostly to give toss a fighting chance against the zerg's free expansion, and often gives winning counter plays later in the game if not stopped early.




Anyway uh, I don't play sc anymore >__> But i'll be playing sc2 hardcore for sure ;D
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:50 PM   #43
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Alternatively a set of 12 templars with a group psi storm could wipe those carriers out in about 5 seconds.
Storm doesn't stack damage. it does about 150-200 damage, then needs to be recast. A group of 12 ghosts though can lockdown 24 carriers though without much problem.

Vash and i played in a ffa game against each other last night. He ended up winning, but i kept being attacked by both him, and inactive_user. i sorta never recovered from the dual attack, even though inactive dropped shortly after.
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Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:52 PM   #44
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Storm doesn't stack damage. it does about 150-200 damage, then needs to be recast. A group of 12 ghosts though can lockdown 24 carriers though without much problem.

Vash and i played in a ffa game against each other last night. He ended up winning, but i kept being attacked by both him, and inactive_user. i sorta never recovered from the dual attack, even though inactive dropped shortly after.
Hate to break it to you manti, but storm does stack in damage XD

ps you had time to rebuild because I just kept throwing random attacks at you. Then I decided to finish it off with goons
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:52 PM   #45
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You're still alive?

I'm a mediocre member? That's not too shabby considering my activeness on the forums, but you ... rofl. I've never even heard of you outside this thread and you have 4,000+ posts?

What do you know about respect anyhow?

Damn ... I thought you dropped it when you didn't post yesterday too.
No I just don't lurk every single part of the forum every single second.

PS fido I am amazing and have every right to be a dick.

PPS play Warcraft III instead guys!
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:55 PM   #46
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PPS play Warcraft III instead guys!

Eh...Played WIII and like the hero system and plot but the online play is no match I find.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:18 PM   #47
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Hate to break it to you manti, but storm does stack in damage XD
Storm does not stack in damage.

Try it. Im 100% positive 6 storms at the same time will = the damage one storm will do.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:59 PM   #48
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I used to play a lot of Warcraft III but my tactics are long outdated.

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Old 05-30-2007, 07:10 PM   #49
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Nice i cant wait for starcraft II, loved good old starcraft. and found that ive been playin it alot more since i watched vidz on S2. i play on US East and my account is DaVv01F though ive mainly been playin lan with my bros and friends. i don't play many 1 on 1 matchs on the net but i beat every1 at my house, understand a zelot rush and how useful lightning storm is, and i have an intense rivalry with my 2 years younger than me brother who loves zerg. hehe keeps tryin 2 rush me with zerg but zealot rush is more powerful, but dang he can rush fast.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:59 PM   #50
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Tsunami.wav, east coast. I don't play much and i kinda suck >.< I'm a zerg player that usually builds up a defense first, expand, then mass hydras, and mutas while mixing in guardians, ultras, scourges and lurkers depending on the opponent and the situation.
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:02 PM   #51
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Eh...Played WIII and like the hero system and plot but the online play is no match I find.
Oh probably because all of the ******s are playing DotA and pretty much everybody who isn't level 9999999999999 on the ladder plays DotA a ****ty custom map made by some guy who enjoys having gay sex. At least it inspired a really awesome techno song by Basshunter 8)
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:23 PM   #52
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:52 PM   #53
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Oh probably because all of the ******s are playing DotA and pretty much everybody who isn't level 9999999999999 on the ladder plays DotA a ****ty custom map made by some guy who enjoys having gay sex. At least it inspired a really awesome techno song by Basshunter 8)
Acually I played mostly on recorded games and only footman footies a few times...
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:28 PM   #54
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Apparently, I am really good at 3v3 no rush games. No joke.
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Lolol Mass Nukes!
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:38 PM   #56
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My Starcraft has some error for no reason that won't let me play online. I have no idea how to fix it, plus it's not worth the effort it'd take so I can play online twice and then stop playing again. =\
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:46 PM   #57
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Storm does not stack in damage.

Try it. Im 100% positive 6 storms at the same time will = the damage one storm will do.
Just cast the storms one after another. I have taken out ~~20 carriers with about 12 templars many times before.

It's easier if you have some goons too to avoid losing templars, but it's usually easy regardless because only noobs build carriers in mass.

Alternatively if you want to avoid templars all together, 2 arbiters with freeze and mass goons will wipe the floor with carriers just as easy or easier if anything if your micro is good and you can focus attacks quickly.

Zerg can just cast plague for goodbye2ucarriers. Even if they don't have plague, scrouges are hell to deal with if you have carriers. Really, carriers arn't a big deal >_>
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Old 06-1-2007, 09:05 PM   #58
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Old 06-2-2007, 04:53 PM   #59
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lets see... i havnt played starcraft in... 5 years?
ya. and that was for the N64. man was that game the ****...
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Old 06-3-2007, 04:03 AM   #60
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