[Concluded] 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) - Page 16

**Felyx** · 10-8-2016, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portalbob340

What are the difficulty ranges?

I second this. Give us a better idea.

**portalbob340** · 10-8-2016, 02:27 AM

Also basing the round on speed of getting AAAs might not be the best idea, some people might not be available until later in the week, for example

DDRNGGin · 10-8-2016, 02:32 AM

Regarding the difficulty ranges for each division, here are the following:

D1: 1-22
D2: 23-45 (D2 players are recommended to start around difficulty 25 for the range)
D3: 45-55 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 48)
D4: 56-65 (Recommended to go at least difficulty 58)
D5: 66-74
D6: 75-85
D7: 87+

**_Zenith_** · 10-8-2016, 02:53 AM

Thoroughly confused

DDRNGGin · 10-8-2016, 03:10 AM

Basically, Round 1 is to try to AAA a public song that is within the difficulty ranges of your division posted above as fast as you can for your team. Yes, you can submit non-AAA scores you have played in the round as placeholders.

Illeriia · 10-8-2016, 03:32 AM

Assuming there's no downside to doing the lowest difficulty, here's my score (D1 for team 7)

**Ihavenoname248** · 10-8-2016, 09:08 AM

Wooooo finally get to play Scarhand. (that's 2 already for Team 7!)

**ULTIMEGA** · 10-8-2016, 11:22 AM

Placeholder score.

I've really lost skill over the last weeks. Will try to regain.

Furthermore, it looks like I might have to fly solo for this tourney unless more people sign up for team 5.

DDRNGGin · 10-8-2016, 11:33 AM

Illeriia, there are no downsides to doing the lowest difficulty for this challenge since you are D1.

Ihavenoname248, congrats on unlocking St. Scarhand [Standard]! Well done!

ULTIMEGA, you do have about 2 weeks for this round, along with the other teams/participants. Right now, I would advise for you to focus on recruiting more teammates.

**Walrusizer** · 10-8-2016, 12:11 PM

lmao fuck first try

i assume it can be something ive aready aaad right?

DDRNGGin · 10-8-2016, 12:24 PM

Yes, it can be a song that you did previously AAA'd.

**Walrusizer** · 10-8-2016, 04:10 PM

**ULTIMEGA** · 10-8-2016, 04:52 PM

Recruiting members for Team 5 in this tourney.

**MarcusHawkins** · 10-8-2016, 05:26 PM

I could've AAA'd something that I have AAA'd before, but where's the fun in that?
Here's my submission for Round 1!

Edit: PLEASE do not send me a PM about round one starting, unless the challenge for Round 1 has changed! Thank you very much!

EDIT 2: The challenge for Round 1 has changed, but I believe this submission still suffices for the challenge, thanks for not sending me a PM about Round 1 starting!

**PhantomPuppy** · 10-8-2016, 06:17 PM

lol we need to AAA? i dont think that's gonna happen. forgot how much this game lags. but here's what i've got so far.

**Felyx** · 10-8-2016, 07:36 PM

Yeah, a AAA fest round 1 is a good way to ensure I stop caring about this tournament pretty quickly. RIP.

DDRNGGin · 10-8-2016, 08:07 PM

This is not necessarily a AAA fest based round; however, it is a strong focus for it. If no teams do achieve a full team AAA, then teams that are the closest will have the credits added to the team pot. We will try our best to avoid the AAA based stuff to the best of our abilities for now. My apologies for any inconveniences.

**Ihavenoname248** · 10-8-2016, 08:37 PM

The issue with the set-up for this round is threefold:
* Binary goal
* Real time focused
* Exclusionary difficulty

The issue with AAA-ing things is that it's binary: either you have it or you don't.

The issue with real time being an aspect is that some people are just busier than others, some people won't see this until the following day, etc.

That last point isn't entirely obvious, but, well... you went off the token unlocks, which do vary from the division boundaries. I'd say that the average FFR-er can AAA something 2 or 3 levels below their own level, with some fluctuation in both directions (your own +9 Flight of the Bumblebee, my -9 ABCDEath until I got HELLBEAT for -2)

So what levels can actually do this?
1-27 (Excite Bike), 30-45, 53-54, 60-64, 68-78, 81-86, 90+
D1 is fine, D2 is mostly fine, D3 is screwed, D4-D7 should probably have had the screws loosened a bit.

So yeah. Even though I got my AAA and unlocked Scarhand because of this, the more I think about this round the less well designed it seems.

**PhantomPuppy** · 10-8-2016, 08:44 PM

i'm not complaining, i just figured i'd be able to slide in a couple scores in the team tourney cuz last year, it was run more like fun little events every round like get as many total perfect notes as a team as you can and stuff along those lines, and not so much AAA or die.

DDRNGGin · 10-9-2016, 05:12 AM

As far as the round itself....I honestly should have thought it out a bit more cautiously (mainly in the difficulty ranges of the divisions). I will try my best to adjust the ranges slightly to make it easier (and a possibility of changing the objective from AAA to under 30 Raw Goods). The goal of the round is to discuss with your teammates song(s) that are strong candidates for acquiring a small number of goods. Also, keep in mind that this is the first tournament I have ever hosted, so if anyone does have suggestions on how to make this tournament better in future rounds, then I encourage you to let me or Deadlyx39 know, okay?

EDIT: Not sure if any better, but here are the new proposed difficulty ranges:

D1: 1-22
D2: 23-45 (D2 players are recommended to start around difficulty 25 for the range)
D3: 45-55 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 48)
D4: 56-65 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 58)
D5: 66-74
D6: 75-85
D7: 87+

10-8-2016, 02:27 AM	#302
portalbob340 D4 Sub-par Keymasher Join Date: Oct 2012 Age: 25 Posts: 812	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Also basing the round on speed of getting AAAs might not be the best idea, some people might not be available until later in the week, for example __________________ 9th Official - Division 2 - 14th Place Timebomb Tournament - Division 3 - 5th (of 7) One Division Higher Tournament - Division 3 - 3rd One Division Higher Tournament - Division 3 (+1) - 5th Tournament of Champions -Division 3 - 4th 10th Official - Division 3 - 15th Helping Hand Tournament - Division 3 - oops

10-8-2016, 02:32 AM	#303
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Regarding the difficulty ranges for each division, here are the following: D1: 1-22 D2: 23-45 (D2 players are recommended to start around difficulty 25 for the range) D3: 45-55 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 48) D4: 56-65 (Recommended to go at least difficulty 58) D5: 66-74 D6: 75-85 D7: 87+ __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80) Last edited by DDRNGGin; 10-9-2016 at 05:24 AM.. Reason: Changing difficulty ranges

10-8-2016, 02:53 AM	#304
_Zenith_ Accuracy Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Age: 28 Posts: 4,628	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Thoroughly confused __________________

10-8-2016, 03:10 AM	#305
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Basically, Round 1 is to try to AAA a public song that is within the difficulty ranges of your division posted above as fast as you can for your team. Yes, you can submit non-AAA scores you have played in the round as placeholders. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

10-8-2016, 03:32 AM	#306
Illeriia FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2016 Age: 25 Posts: 58	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Assuming there's no downside to doing the lowest difficulty, here's my score (D1 for team 7) Last edited by Illeriia; 10-8-2016 at 03:33 AM..

10-8-2016, 09:08 AM	#307
Ihavenoname248 FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 89	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Wooooo finally get to play Scarhand. (that's 2 already for Team 7!) __________________ Highest FC (81): October (21-0-0-8) / Mario Minor (39-6-0-8) / bmv.578 (10-0-0-1) Highest SDG (74): Midnight Dragon (4-0-0-0) Highest 'low' SDG (68): asdfmovie song / The Strategy of Emperor (2-0-0-0) / Purple (3-0-0-0) Highest BF (66): We Killed The Rave (1-0-0-0) Highest AAA (66): HELLBEAT Last edited by Ihavenoname248; 10-8-2016 at 09:08 AM..

10-8-2016, 11:33 AM	#309
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Illeriia, there are no downsides to doing the lowest difficulty for this challenge since you are D1. Ihavenoname248, congrats on unlocking St. Scarhand [Standard]! Well done! ULTIMEGA, you do have about 2 weeks for this round, along with the other teams/participants. Right now, I would advise for you to focus on recruiting more teammates. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

10-8-2016, 12:11 PM	#310
Walrusizer D7 Elite Keymasher Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,080	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) lmao fuck first try i assume it can be something ive aready aaad right? __________________ is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself?

10-8-2016, 12:24 PM	#311
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Yes, it can be a song that you did previously AAA'd. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

10-8-2016, 04:10 PM	#312
Walrusizer D7 Elite Keymasher Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,080	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) ez __________________ is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself? Last edited by Walrusizer; 10-8-2016 at 04:10 PM..

10-8-2016, 07:36 PM	#316
Felyx Cute Pony Supreme Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 97	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) Yeah, a AAA fest round 1 is a good way to ensure I stop caring about this tournament pretty quickly. RIP. __________________

10-8-2016, 08:07 PM	#317
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) This is not necessarily a AAA fest based round; however, it is a strong focus for it. If no teams do achieve a full team AAA, then teams that are the closest will have the credits added to the team pot. We will try our best to avoid the AAA based stuff to the best of our abilities for now. My apologies for any inconveniences. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

10-8-2016, 08:37 PM	#318
Ihavenoname248 FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 89	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) The issue with the set-up for this round is threefold: * Binary goal * Real time focused * Exclusionary difficulty The issue with AAA-ing things is that it's binary: either you have it or you don't. The issue with real time being an aspect is that some people are just busier than others, some people won't see this until the following day, etc. That last point isn't entirely obvious, but, well... you went off the token unlocks, which do vary from the division boundaries. I'd say that the average FFR-er can AAA something 2 or 3 levels below their own level, with some fluctuation in both directions (your own +9 Flight of the Bumblebee, my -9 ABCDEath until I got HELLBEAT for -2) D1 needs to AAA something in the 1-27 range while being in the 1-21 range. No problems here other than Excite Bike is literally free. D2 needs to AAA something in the 28-49 range while being in the 22-45 range. This is starting to show the issue: someone at level 26 or 27, a decent ways into their division (where accuracy is still being worked on!), need to get a AAA above their skill rating. Okay, a skillboost could manage this. Likewise, someone at the low 40s could just grab a song a dozen levels below their rank. D3 needs to AAA something in the 50-57 range while being in the 46-54 range. This just exacerbates the issue: in order for the average player to get this AAA, they need to be on the upper end of their division. Anyone before level 50? Git gud to compete. 50-52? Hope you're good at AAAing. 53-54? You're good. D4 needs 58-65 while being 55-64. Same basic issue, except mid D4 is enough vs. high D3. D5 needs 66-78 while being 65-76. Same setup as D4. D6 needs 79-88 while being 77-86. Yep. Low D6 can't participate either. D7 needs 89+ while being 87+. Yeah. So what levels can actually do this? 1-27 (Excite Bike), 30-45, 53-54, 60-64, 68-78, 81-86, 90+ D1 is fine, D2 is mostly fine, D3 is screwed, D4-D7 should probably have had the screws loosened a bit. So yeah. Even though I got my AAA and unlocked Scarhand because of this, the more I think about this round the less well designed it seems. __________________ Highest FC (81): October (21-0-0-8) / Mario Minor (39-6-0-8) / bmv.578 (10-0-0-1) Highest SDG (74): Midnight Dragon (4-0-0-0) Highest 'low' SDG (68): asdfmovie song / The Strategy of Emperor (2-0-0-0) / Purple (3-0-0-0) Highest BF (66): We Killed The Rave (1-0-0-0) Highest AAA (66): HELLBEAT

10-9-2016, 05:12 AM	#320
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39) As far as the round itself....I honestly should have thought it out a bit more cautiously (mainly in the difficulty ranges of the divisions). I will try my best to adjust the ranges slightly to make it easier (and a possibility of changing the objective from AAA to under 30 Raw Goods). The goal of the round is to discuss with your teammates song(s) that are strong candidates for acquiring a small number of goods. Also, keep in mind that this is the first tournament I have ever hosted, so if anyone does have suggestions on how to make this tournament better in future rounds, then I encourage you to let me or Deadlyx39 know, okay? EDIT: Not sure if any better, but here are the new proposed difficulty ranges: D1: 1-22 D2: 23-45 (D2 players are recommended to start around difficulty 25 for the range) D3: 45-55 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 48) D4: 56-65 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 58) D5: 66-74 D6: 75-85 D7: 87+ __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80) Last edited by DDRNGGin; 10-9-2016 at 05:31 AM..

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