TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I'm also really not comfortable reading mellon because I always have a bias of scumreading her everygame I play with her. It's either scum because inactivity or scum because I think she's not making much of her own points and just going with other people. Somebody that has played more games with them or know them better as a person would have a much better idea of her siding her than me

we all have one person we sheep reads on in twg

I have two tho: haku and her

'cept this game atm

I actually feel like Haku's great and... tbh I'm inclined to agree with shado's recent response atm as I'm rereading d0

his statement is about critiquing the "rubric" roundbox lays out (btw shado I really appreciate the choice of words, fucking great shit man)

and to pile a little extra on there, even if her post count was higher, there's a question of content contained and where it is in context to what's going on

which btw on a reread is... not great imho atm but it's d0 hindsight reread so I don't wanna like grab that and cherry pick the earlier part of the game as a defining HAH HE RITE THO

so till I get caught up I don't wanna sell myself

but I get what he's probably actually trying to get at?

correct me if I'm wrong shado

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by roundbox

big case on indheart

At least I actually think he's a wolf and not just saying "I don't like him so he can die"
If that's how you're playing are you even playing the game?
And then you call someone else out for not playing when they've actually done more game relevant things than you instead of whining about their hurt feelings

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

YO roundbox

I agree with your analysis of her wolfplay. Yes to all three of those difficulties she has in her wolfgames.

Look again at your own "proof" that she's different this game, though. I think your own examples work against her using your own rubric.

Postcount: She's near the bottom of players in postcount (3rd lowest)

Posting reads: almost all her reads this game (including both the ones I've posted and the ones in your own quote) are waffly and inconclusive. The NOVEL Read ends in "hard to read I guess" the FFA one you admitted is paper thin. In the post I quoted she's asked about her wolfreads and responds with 4 people. Out of those 4 in her wolfreads list, she ends 3 f those reads of them with a near dismissal of her own read "could be way off" "may be a lack of experience" "I'm having flashbacks". I can show you more if you'd like but this should illustrate the point we'll enough

Post timing: with 38 posts in 68 hours, I don't much think her timing here supercedes the other two factors, but I will grant that her timing isn't as overtly opportunistic as it's been in prior wolfgames

I see where you're coming from on your points. In regards to post timing and post count, I think those two are closer to my interpretation. If you look at the game I linked, she is the lowest post counter (xel replaced, t-force has twgma posts, and star was killed n1). It's lowest by a very solid margin, not quite like this game.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

No matter how you intend to say that 'pat yourself on the back' part, it's impossible for anybody reading it to see it as anything but dickish. And as I said before several times, it wasn't the 'good scumhunting' that was condescending, but the 'but you're wrong'. Which again, was out of nowhere because I wasn't even asking you anything, I was asking mml to elaborate.

For the last time, I wasn't answering your question. I was making a read on you. I didn't even QUOTE your question, so it's hard to believe that you still think I was answering it or interfering with it after it's already been beaten to death. This isn't even relevant to the game anymore so I don't even know why I'm bothering to try, but consider this:

Charu: "Hey T-Force mind explaining this a bit more? The rest of your post was full"
Charu: "and by full I mean you elaborated on everything except the part I asked about"

Sunfan: -quotes charu's second post- "Charu, I think you're town here for taking a nuanced scum hunting approach, but you're wrong"

Does sunfan in that situation prevent T-Force from answering Charu's question? No, he's just reading Charu. Yes, the "you're wrong" part was irrelevant and unnecessary, but it still in no way takes away from the question itself, so stop misrepresenting my post as "butting into MML answering your question" I did no such thing.

[flashflash account]

I would describe wolf Raeko as having a "can't touch this" attitude

[flashflash account]

I'm probably going back to not trying at all in an hour and a half just so y'all know

[Gradiant]

I've dropped it already but you keep bringing it up when other people say you're being arrogant. I'm not responding to that shit anymore.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I do not like inDheart A-T-M
And I do not intend to sound B-M
But such is needed when you speak like so
Iambic pentameter: a NO

Originally Posted by flashflash account

There once were some posts by inD
Had nothing to do with me
He sounds so aloof
That he must be a woof
I'd lynch him o'er this, do you see?

Originally Posted by flashflash account

1) Daikyi-town
2) roundbox-town
3) star-crossed-town
4) MixMasterLar-town
5) Gradiant-toen
6) Wayward Vagabond-wolf
7) inDheart-wolf
8) XelNya-town
9) flashflash account-town
10) Antori-town
11) Hakulyte-town
12) mellonxcollie-wolf
13) ShadoWolfe-town

This list is probably at least half right
Good enough

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I'm not even being ridiculous
I just made a shot in the dark about the wolf team and it didn't include you
You aren't town yet cause there's obviously going to be some progression between your previous game and here

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Oh

Originally Posted by flashflash account

We should lynch indheart

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I still suss ind

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Ok well your take on the solo voters is weird in that instance cause it pretty much makes xel look like a shoe in for the wolf
Ind is probably the wolf on that wagon obviously
PoE is starting to lead me in the gradiant/daikyi region

look at this OVERWHELMING CASE OF SCUMREAD AGAINST inDheart
"here's a haiku where I say I don't like his tone of posts 50 minutes into the game."
"the wolf team was a shot in the dark"
"I wanna lynch ind"
"I still suspect ind"
"he was on the list of people that voted wv"

Originally Posted by flashflash account

At least I actually think he's a wolf and not just saying "I don't like him so he can die"
If that's how you're playing are you even playing the game?
And then you call someone else out for not playing when they've actually done more game relevant things than you instead of whining about their hurt feelings

I think this read on ind is quite weak and you even acknowledged it was a shot in the dark
I'm clearly playing the game; I know you read my post on raeko. is that me not playing the game? I had to manually put the quote numbers on each of those old posts since they're from an archived thread
this last bit I'm not going to respond to, I think this game has enough toxicity

[roundbox]

and fun fact: I still haven't gone to play videogames because I keep refreshing the thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I'm not really getting mellon using 'over-confident' being a buzzword for me shado. I'd say you were overconfident last game because you knew you were caught but knew that town wasn't going to do anything about it. Here, your role isn't known but you're just being arrogant. arrogant over over-confident.

You know what... fight me

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

You know what... fight me

No thanks, you'd probably kick my ass

[roundbox]

I don't see the interaction between gradiant/shadowolfe as w/w distancing
just gonna put that out there

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I see where you're coming from on your points. In regards to post timing and post count, I think those two are closer to my interpretation. If you look at the game I linked, she is the lowest post counter (xel replaced, t-force has twgma posts, and star was killed n1). It's lowest by a very solid margin, not quite like this game.

You're really telling me that the summation of all your years playing raeko is that she isn't scum if she:

A) Isn't exactly the lowest poster

and

B) Posts at somewhat regular intervals

?
I think that's a bit of a stretch, no? You agree the reads themselves are iffy, so there's gotta be something more to your hard townread?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

No thanks, you'd probably kick my ass

Haha nah man I'm too tired these days I'd just try to take my ass-kicking with dignity

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I think this read on ind is quite weak and you even acknowledged it was a shot in the dark
I'm clearly playing the game; I know you read my post on raeko. is that me not playing the game? I had to manually put the quote numbers on each of those old posts since they're from an archived thread
this last bit I'm not going to respond to, I think this game has enough toxicity

That was at gradiant I agree you are clearly playing the game

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

That was at gradiant I agree you are clearly playing the game

wasn't clear because you only quoted me in that post. go back and read it and hopefully you can see why I read it as directed at me

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by roundbox

wasn't clear because you only quoted me in that post. go back and read it and hopefully you can see why I read it as directed at me

Nah don't see it
You never said "I don't like him so he can die" iirc
I do say "you" a lot so I guess if you skim it

[Antori]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I'm not voting Gradiant this phase
Especially if you have no reasons for that read.

his "to lynch on d0" list only had me, shado and wayward which removing wayward only leaves the two people that pressured him that day. that sounds like a defensive play as if someone is opting to kill people that suspect him at all, he does have suspicion on daikyi because he has similair train of that which i dong know why you'd wanna lynch someone if they're thinking how you think, is he claiming that he's evil role? this is the vibe i got from the reads list it sounded wolfy to me.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Making a readslist didn't make you suspected, it's you not paying attention to your own realists

good think i'm still making it in my notepad but just so i catch up to what my thoughts are when i hop back in

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You've played twice with me at least.

You've even got me lynched in FFA's OOTC game

this is second time actually sorry i was sure i was forgetting someone

[roundbox]

in good news I saw some ducks yesterday
they were cute

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Nah don't see it
You never said "I don't like him so he can die" iirc
I do say "you" a lot so I guess if you skim it

it 100% seemed like you were talking to roundbox because there was nothing else quoted