TWG CXLVII - Host Signups

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

infractions
shminfractions

I now regret this post

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I now regret this post

roflcopter

[rzr]

Originally Posted by YoshL

rzr the difference here is that red blaster did 2 things that actually broke twg rules, again

1) posting after mod announced end of day. there was like a 10+ minute buffer, and he should have no excuse for that

2) posting information that he received during the night, after he died. People didn't really use it, but the intent to cheat was there, again.

Fair to say I did miss this, though that can be applied to Red as a TWG rule, not by adding a modkill rule.

C'maaaaahn everyone knows, just take the few people who'd been modkilled this game and assume they were at some bannable time frame currently. It will deter people and take longer to fill sign ups - I think reviving the TWC would be more wise as there are plenty of people here that are good with applying infractions and monitoring game activity type behavior even while not playing o.O

[AragakiAyase]

rzr the other modkills were mechanical and afaik don't apply (haku, botchi). The only one up for discussion is Red Blaster.

[thesunfan]

I think reviving the TWC is pretty unnecessary both now and probably ever

While I think that people here are competent enough to be on a council, the idea of a council lording over the forum is a strange one, and while that's probably a bit too dramatic, I think things are/will be fine as they are now.

Yoshl and I have some things in the works (almost entirely, if not entirely him), and we also have a nice dichotomy between the both of us when making decisions and such (very similar to good cop bad cop imo)

Remaking the infractions thread is something I have mixed feelings about. I do think it might be necessary, and replacing out is pretty not ok since some players (James May, cedolad when he played) are much, much more likely to replace out than finish a game, but I haven't quite seen that as much lately.

Manti is still a mod as well, both for TGB and TWG (not sure if people know this), and he, and I don't think I can give him enough credit for this, was VERY open regarding the decisions he made, and also, when applicable, let the community make the decisions (such as whether or not to unban Red Blaster).

With the TWC, when votes were done on things proposed, it was done privately and that's just ew.

[thesunfan]

jesus fucking christ comma city in the 2nd to last paragraph.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by YoshL

rzr the difference here is that red blaster did 2 things that actually broke twg rules, again

1) posting after mod announced end of day. there was like a 10+ minute buffer, and he should have no excuse for that

2) posting information that he received during the night, after he died. People didn't really use it, but the intent to cheat was there, again.

Xiz and I already talked about this.
I had the thread open in a tab and opened my pm about getting legs in a seperate tab. Posted the information in the thread before refreshing and apparently things happened in between where the phase ended unexpectedly.

But of course you're making this out to be me blatantly trying to cheat when it's not the case.

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Xiz and I already talked about this.
I had the thread open in a tab and opened my pm about getting legs in a seperate tab. Posted the information in the thread before refreshing and apparently things happened in between where the phase ended unexpectedly.

But of course you're making this out to be me blatantly trying to cheat when it's not the case.

because that's the perspective I had, and you've been known to blatantly cheat in the past, and that's what it looked like.

so instead of trying to throw in attacks, maybe just add in the clarification so that we're all in the know and the misunderstandings don't happen, that would be superb

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by YoshL

so instead of trying to throw in attacks, maybe just add in the clarification so that we're all in the know and the misunderstandings don't happen, that would be superb

Oh the irony~

While I'd like to stay out of this type of discussion, I feel the need to toss in my two cents here:
YoshL, you're doing the same damn thing. You did in your initial post where you could've just mentioned the two infractions and left it be. In this post, you could've just added in your first paragraph.

But, nope, you just had to go and be a snark. I get you're salty towards some people, but Jesus H., can we please keep in civil?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

rzr the other modkills were mechanical and afaik don't apply (haku, botchi). The only one up for discussion is Red Blaster.

Again, leave it as a vote type thing. I don't think red should be banned; not indefinitely or arbitrarily, but I do respect the opinion of the community. My concern was in there being a generic rule stating that a modkill = a ban no matter what which would be no bueno

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by YoshL

rzr the difference here is that red blaster did 2 things that actually broke twg rules, again

1) posting after mod announced end of day. there was like a 10+ minute buffer, and he should have no excuse for that

2) posting information that he received during the night, after he died. People didn't really use it, but the intent to cheat was there, again.

this is a personal attack? this is exactly what i was thinking, and assuming (falsely, thanks to red blaster clearing things up).

I pretty much described the scenario as I saw it, and that's it.

Red Blaster's followup clarification post includes a line that insinuates that I'm purposefully trying to make it look like he's cheating, which is also false.

T-Force go away lol this is pretty damn civil, don't try and kindle the drama fire

[Red Blaster]

It's really not a big deal, can we not make this into a fuss.
As I said, I'll sit this game out per the 1 game ban rule.

[T-Force]

Just as long as we're all cool.
YoshL1 x2
YoshL2 x1

[YoshL]

nah i don't think that warrants sitting out. I really think the infractions thread is more for people who afk and get replaced and/or break rules

t-force, you just spent 4 votes u butt

[Vendetta21]

YoshL matrix 12 x 3

i might actually be able to keep playing as long as no one flips their shit about my lower activity levels, so this isn't an outsider vote necessarily

[T-Force]

Whoops. Had the number 2 on the brain when casting votes for YoshL2.

[Gradiant]

yoshl matrix 12 x3

[Vendetta21]

YoshL please start your game

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by YoshL

rzr the difference here is that red blaster did 2 things that actually broke twg rules, again

1) posting after mod announced end of day. there was like a 10+ minute buffer, and he should have no excuse for that

2) posting information that he received during the night, after he died. People didn't really use it, but the intent to cheat was there, again.

He may be an idiot, but he's OUR idiot. FFR TWG isn't the same without him.

[Vendetta21]

Also I'm for sure going to keep playing TWG. I decided I have enough time for one hobby and I cut DotA and went with TWG because I have learned more valuable skills from this game than any other game.