Old 12-7-2017, 03:35 PM   #21
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etienne is way better than all of us and only has 699 tier points. im decentish and only have 414. my entire point is that your skill should not be judged off how many charts you play. aaaing one 100 is way more impressive than aaaing every file below 70, yet the tier points system would rate aaaing every file below 70 as about 8374 times harder.

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Jhlee0133 isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such speed and stamina with a keyboard? Jhlee0133 puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Mina breaks records. EtienneSM breaks records. Jhlee0133 breaks the rules. You can keep your Stepmania. I prefer the osu.
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lol aaaing a 100 is not more impressive than playing every song below 70 and aaaing.

I'm way more impressed with someone having 1k aaa's than someone who has 400 with a 100 aaa
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Old 12-7-2017, 03:40 PM   #23
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are you actually serious?????

if you can aaa a 100 then aaaing even fucking 90s is trivial for you. aaaing 70s or below is actually just effortless, it means nothing. it just means you fucking spent a lot of time playing easy shit.
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Jhlee0133 isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such speed and stamina with a keyboard? Jhlee0133 puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Mina breaks records. EtienneSM breaks records. Jhlee0133 breaks the rules. You can keep your Stepmania. I prefer the osu.
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Old 12-7-2017, 03:42 PM   #24
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Let me break it down for you. Its way more impressive for "player 1" to have 1k aaa's and only have a best aaa of around 70 than "player 2" to have 400 aaas and having a 100 aaa. It means nothing. Yes, im 100% serious.

Edit: LOL the purpose of the game is to play the files.....doesnt matter how good you are.
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Old 12-7-2017, 03:43 PM   #25
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i 100% understood what you said, how did you think that i didnt? i just think its incredibly stupid and incorrect.

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Edit: LOL the purpose of the game is to play the files.....doesnt matter how good you are.
wait what does this have to do with the conversation??? i never said anything about the "purpose of the game". the entire fucking point of what I said involved skill, it doesn't matter if you think one of them isn't going by the "purpose of the game".
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Jhlee0133 isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such speed and stamina with a keyboard? Jhlee0133 puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Mina breaks records. EtienneSM breaks records. Jhlee0133 breaks the rules. You can keep your Stepmania. I prefer the osu.

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How does it not have anything to do with the point? The purpose of the game is to play the files, AKA that shows your skill.
If you want a different type of skill, go get all of the skill tokens. Or go AAA all of the older files/synthlight files. Just because you can aaa 100s doesnt make you "good".

Lets break it down for you again. Just because someone can aaa 100s doesnt always mean they can beat players who can only aaa up to 80. Theres different types of files in the game and everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Ive gotten eliminated from every official by players who might not theoretically be better than me, just because i had a weakness in the song. It could totally play to their strengths and they could win.
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i never said aaaing 100s make you "good", i said its harder and therefore displays more skill than aaaing everything below 70 (or any arbitrary number below like 90 or even slightly higher).
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The longer your e-peen is the more creative you get in measuring it. Can confirm it is a fun pastime.
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Too much epeen in this thread, please put them away.
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Kind of skimmed this thread and I just felt like putting my 2 cents in on a few things.

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Let me break it down for you. Its way more impressive for "player 1" to have 1k aaa's and only have a best aaa of around 70 than "player 2" to have 400 aaas and having a 100 aaa. It means nothing. Yes, im 100% serious.
This right here really bothers me because everyone's pov regarding what's impressive varies from person to person. What can impress you may not impress others at all. When I first started playing FFR, I used to be very impressed by the amount of tp's, AAA's, and FC's a person had (just like you). But over time, I really started to care less because I realized this does not show how well a player can perform - basically, I do not find farming songs very skillful. That's essentially what FFR is.

If we are basing a person's skill level essentially on the number of these things, you're completely blind sighted. Walrusizer's comment regarding Ettiene pretty much supports that right there. Some players are just not interested in farming a bunch of (sorry to say it, not really), boring low level files. It's very common for higher level players to want to play only higher level songs.

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Lets break it down for you again. Just because someone can aaa 100s doesnt always mean they can beat players who can only aaa up to 80. Theres different types of files in the game and everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Ive gotten eliminated from every official by players who might not theoretically be better than me, just because i had a weakness in the song. It could totally play to their strengths and they could win.
This may be true in some sense - however, the person who can AAA 100's still may have the slight advantage over the person who can only AAA up to 80. You have to consider there are also many other factors on why a person who have lower AAA's might eliminate a person who AAA's 100's

1) people skill boost all the time (sometimes during tournaments)
2) some people just do not perform well in tournaments (i'm one of these people)
3) sandbagging
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Playing the game > Being good at it for me, and in the best interest of the site IMHO.
But being good at the game is part of playing the game. You can't be good without playing so I really don't get this at all.

It's like saying "Lifting weights > Getting more muscle".
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Just gonna drop in here to say that tier points don't even get considered in OT placements. Levelranks and Top 100 are enough to determine how skilled a player is. Tier points are useful for very few things: Unlocking achievement tokens, profile badges, and pride.

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LOL the purpose of the game is to play the files.....doesnt matter how good you are.
Who are you to determine the "purpose of the game" for anyone? The purpose of this game is different for everyone who plays it, whether that be completionist-style domination of every song in the game or seeking out the hardest files there are and striving to break the leaderboards on those...

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Lets break it down for you again. Just because someone can aaa 100s doesnt always mean they can beat players who can only aaa up to 80.
Yes they will. Someone who can AAA difficulty 100 files will always outperform someone who can only AAA difficulty 80 files in the same format. This is because the level 100 player is mechanically better than the level 80 player, and given the length of a standard round in a tournament and provided that everyone tries their hardest, the superior mechanical skill will prevail.
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I think the only value you could get out of Tier Points would be something like tokens.

It's meaningless for FFR Ranks.

I just happened to have Unconnected(D7)/Derby(lvl95 AAA) in mind.
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Yes they will. Someone who can AAA difficulty 100 files will always outperform someone who can only AAA difficulty 80 files in the same format. This is because the level 100 player is mechanically better than the level 80 player, and given the length of a standard round in a tournament and provided that everyone tries their hardest, the superior mechanical skill will prevail.
In most cases, yes. Not all though.
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I'm getting told different things.. I think you guys got a bit off track. I was told I should be AAAing songs to the 25-35 difficulty, but the highest aaa I got was like 15 or 20... I know, im terrible.
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I'm getting told different things.. I think you guys got a bit off track. I was told I should be AAAing songs to the 25-35 difficulty, but the highest aaa I got was like 15 or 20... I know, im terrible.
Your highest AAA is an 11 and your skill rating is 10, so you -should- be able to AAA things around the 8-10 range since skill rating is usually a bit higher than your actual AAA potential.
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lol aaaing a 100 is not more impressive than playing every song below 70 and aaaing.

I'm way more impressed with someone having 1k aaa's than someone who has 400 with a 100 aaa
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I'm getting told different things.. I think you guys got a bit off track. I was told I should be AAAing songs to the 25-35 difficulty, but the highest aaa I got was like 15 or 20... I know, im terrible.
Basically, tier points are just a pointless statistic that measures how many specific hard songs you have done well on (AAA'd/FC'd/whatever) with a number.

That is all. You can literally play the game without caring about them.
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