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Old 12-23-2017, 09:48 AM   #21
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Reuben bussing Raeko is the most mind blowin' part of this game imo because she was the wolf PR.

Activity/replacements/rallying town together/reaching a common ground felt like the real obstacle this game.

I wasn't here early game, but that's how it felt later on.
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Congratulations, raeko, roundbox, Ben and Haku. I am sorry to the town, that I did not help by shooting anybody. I just did not think that I would die so soon, and I thought I would be more likely to shoot a mafia later on.
even if you shoot a town, its probably good for town, because your shot was likely going to be on someone that town would end up killing anyways
its a neat little thing about vigis
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Old 12-23-2017, 11:28 AM   #23
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even if you shoot a town, its probably good for town, because your shot was likely going to be on someone that town would end up killing anyways
its a neat little thing about vigis
Except if I had shot you, which was definitely possible, unfortunately.
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Sorry, I didn't mean it like a game solving element.

The true story is that ben forgot raeko was the wolf PR and decided to self-pres back rather than keeping the unvote and taking the fall.

That's the part that surprised me when I replaced in.
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Old 12-23-2017, 11:56 AM   #25
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Default Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Post-Game Thread

looks like a really rough setup for town tbh, the 1-shot vigi not getting used doesn't help
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Old 12-23-2017, 12:41 PM   #26
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Sorry, I didn't mean it like a game solving element.

The true story is that ben forgot raeko was the wolf PR and decided to self-pres back rather than keeping the unvote and taking the fall.

That's the part that surprised me when I replaced in.
well like i posted about, it actually didn't matter because there was nothing left for her to roleblock

at that point you might as well all be goons
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Except if I had shot you, which was definitely possible, unfortunately.
honestly, I'd argue that its alright even if you did shoot me.

it'd be the worst possible outcome, but its honestly still alright.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:39 PM   #28
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well like i posted about, it actually didn't matter because there was nothing left for her to roleblock

at that point you might as well all be goons
didn't my flip basically confirm the setup for town though? not that I blame ben for forgetting/self-presing, I could see myself doing the same thing
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didn't my flip basically confirm the setup for town though? not that I blame ben for forgetting/self-presing, I could see myself doing the same thing
no, from the roles town knew it had, there's always a wolf roleblocker in the game

a godfather flip would have locked the game to 2 Ts though
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Except if I had shot you, which was definitely possible, unfortunately.
A risk always worth taking so long as vigi shoots counterwagons to town flips or other dark spots on people's list.

Just remember that if you fuck up to claim it. If no counterclaim you are at least clear; if counter claim we know one of them is a liar (in most set ups) and have a direction for the lynch. It's mechanically sound.
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A risk always worth taking so long as vigi shoots counterwagons to town flips or other dark spots on people's list.

Just remember that if you fuck up to claim it. If no counterclaim you are at least clear; if counter claim we know one of them is a liar (in most set ups) and have a direction for the lynch. It's mechanically sound.
not in C9++, counterclaims kind of aren't real unless we're close to locking the setup

there's also something to be said for sitting on your claim instead of just claiming it openly, but perhaps claiming earlier is better if you make a "bad" shot

by "bad" i don't mean just that they flipped town, but maybe read the room and see whether it seemed like they were worth the shot
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not in C9++, counterclaims kind of aren't real unless we're close to locking the setup

there's also something to be said for sitting on your claim instead of just claiming it openly, but perhaps claiming earlier is better if you make a "bad" shot

by "bad" i don't mean just that they flipped town, but maybe read the room and see whether it seemed like they were worth the shot
nah he's right, one-shot roles are counterclaimable
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nah he's right, one-shot roles are counterclaimable
oh yeah you can't have two one-shots ever

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no, from the roles town knew it had, there's always a wolf roleblocker in the game

a godfather flip would have locked the game to 2 Ts though
i also got this wrong, it could be a game with no Ts, it's just rather unlikely
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Default Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Post-Game Thread

Who won this game and why is postgame not in the template for easy upload to the history thread.

If you’re gonna boot me from the game, at least do postgame right. Can’t event tell who won without going into the fine details.
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