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Old 09-27-2019, 01:57 PM   #41
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Are you literally admitting that you shouldn't hold your own party to equal standards?

Like what are you even saying here?
lmao you have such a bad case of both-sides brain that you can't even conceive of people thinking that both Trump and the Democrats are bad.

PS, we spend plenty of time shitting on bad dems in ffya discord.
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:57 PM   #42
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:46 PM   #43
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Aperson I legit don't understand what you're saying
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whenever I find that I can't understand something I try reading it a bit more slowly
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:58 PM   #45
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The thing that bugs me whenever I see the "well if its proven the other side does the same thing then they can answer for it but I'm talking about Side A here" response is that I don't remember you making threads whenever the Democrats step out of line.

You, of course, being the majority of people who complain about Trump. I get that DaBackPack is a little more rounded then your average Facebook user so it's a little unfair to load all that on to him but it serious feels very onesided most of the time.

Actually Facebook is like the absolute worst about that sort of thing too it's why I rarely even care to dive into these discussions anymore everytime I see it it's literally just people firing at the same targets over and over and over again.

Anyway my carry-over salt from arguments of the past aside, thread is good to know that NYT's a piece of shit but nothing is likely coming out of this because Trump would have been outed a very long time ago if that was ever actually in the cards. Good news is that if people will stop telling themselves that voting doesn't matter and actually get off their ass and vote this time around I don't see Trump staying in; he's utterly failed to do the little good I expected of him and I know I ain't the only Trump voter who feels that way.
I never made a Trump thread, this thread is about the NYT. And even if I did, you're suggesting that i don't publicly criticize Dems which is uninformed; I bitch about the DNC and Hillary and Biden all the time. maybe it never manifested on FFR but it's not fair to make this criticism when you don't know the full spectrum of someone's beliefs. Neither party really captures my beliefs which is why the establishment needs to be voted out.

lastly, I'm allowed to bitch about brain cancer even if pancreatic cancer is just as bad. When I'm talking about brain cancer, there's no real reason to interject about pancreatic cancer unless you're trying to be disruptive, make the conversation about yourself, or otherwise just be a contrarian
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:11 PM   #46
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I mean the NYT is very left-leaning and the purpose of this thread is to call them out on their bullshit. What's even sadder is the lack of the liberal MSM coverage on this flagrant fuck-up. Rage against injustice isn't partisan.

As an aside, I know what kind of people on Facebook you're talking about, but not everyone is obligated to comment on every single political event they encounter. I could bitch about, say, how awful Autism Speaks is as an organization but my bandwidth isn't infinite.
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:38 PM   #48
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I mean the NYT is very left-leaning
It's definitely not controversial to say that they're solidly left-leaning.

With HuffPo, Daily Beast, and trashcan TYT in the mix, I wouldn't say 'very' left-leaning though.
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:53 PM   #49
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ok not "very" left but moderately left

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I guess when you think that politics is a line where one side is "the right" and the other side is "the left" it's easy to confuse liberals with coalitions of other "leftist" groups like democratic socialists, socialists, communists, anarchists, etc... but when you categorize things as two-sided it really betrays a complete lack of understanding of any politic outside of our phony two-party system in America.

The two parties in the US work to the same end and are mostly composed of neoconservatives on the right and neoliberals on the left. They have the same goal: To serve corporate interests and ensure profits for stakeholders. They both don't care if you shrivel up and die, they just want their profits and they want to sell you on it in different ways.

What you really mean when you think that NYT is leftist is that they have more neoliberals on staff writing opinions than neoconservatives, which is maybe correct? It's pretty questionable when their current OpEd staff has the likes of Bari Weiss, Ross Douthat, Bret Stephens, David Brooks, etc... and the Liberals are people like Paul Krugman.

Even Washington Post is solidly left of NYT by the two-sides metric though lmao.
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Anyway it's gonna be real fun to see if the anti mattering shield breaks through the mattering here, and you better bet these idiot news corporations are going to sell out every source they can for every last dollar because this is the main event.
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:31 PM   #52
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:42 PM   #53
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I guess when you think that politics is a line where one side is "the right" and the other side is "the left" it's easy to confuse liberals with coalitions of other "leftist" groups like democratic socialists, socialists, communists, anarchists, etc... but when you categorize things as two-sided it really betrays a complete lack of understanding of any politic outside of our phony two-party system in America.

The two parties in the US work to the same end and are mostly composed of neoconservatives on the right and neoliberals on the left. They have the same goal: To serve corporate interests and ensure profits for stakeholders. They both don't care if you shrivel up and die, they just want their profits and they want to sell you on it in different ways.

What you really mean when you think that NYT is leftist is that they have more neoliberals on staff writing opinions than neoconservatives, which is maybe correct? It's pretty questionable when their current OpEd staff has the likes of Bari Weiss, Ross Douthat, Bret Stephens, David Brooks, etc... and the Liberals are people like Paul Krugman.

Even Washington Post is solidly left of NYT by the two-sides metric though lmao.
You're not wrong, I'm pretty sure we discussed this before. I'm just responding to MML's allegations that we (I) criticize people solely around party lines, and the existence of this thread is a counterexample to that. Most people see dem=left and repub=right so it was easier to get my point across that way.

MSM cannot ever truly be leftist since they rely on and exploit capitalist structures to survive. But there is a spectrum of sources along the Overton window.
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MSM cannot ever truly be leftist since they rely on and exploit capitalist structures to survive. But there is a spectrum of sources along the Overton window.
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Also the real way to know which way the wind blows is to watch the betting markets xd

https://www.predictit.org/markets/de...his-first-term
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DaBackPack you not making a thread bitching about dem's or whatever isn't a point I'm making and doesn't invalidate the points your making in thread. That's not what I'm saying

You deflecting in a manner that suggest you would hold both sides equally accountable when that's not super evident in prior actions comes off as.....well deflecting.

It's perfectly reasonable to say the Biden point was a little too off topic and you wanted to highlight the whistleblower but like, you didn't bro--you'd been off that topic for several post top IIRC so I don't see where I'm crossing the line in pointing out that I don't think that's a particularly good response to make.

Edit: the brain cancer analogy is really bad here. You can't force public opinion, vote out, or make life affecting laws with cancers man.
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DaBackPack you not making a thread bitching about dem's or whatever isn't a point I'm making and doesn't invalidate the points your making in thread. That's not what I'm saying
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