Old 11-30-2006, 11:27 PM   #41
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Does the firstText attribute not work?
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Old 12-1-2006, 12:05 AM   #42
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seems like it is to me
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Old 12-1-2006, 12:15 AM   #43
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Why doesn't the first sig update the Overall Rank as well as the new one does?

Et some constructive criticism upon the new sig:
I'd rather the four icons on the left go and have room for two more stats.
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Old 12-1-2006, 12:20 AM   #44
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Pretty sweet. At least this part says I joined in 2003 =)

By the way, there's a small typo on the page. You -> Your.

Hope this helps you with your revenue-getting. I'm sure a bunch of people can use this on other forums. Sadly, I don't go to any other forums. FFR is my home =x
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Sadly, I don't go to any other forums. FFR is my home =x
Same. D:

I could pretend I'm still interested in nexopia and go there... you'll get a mass of canadians join the crew.
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Same. D:

I could pretend I'm still interested in nexopia and go there... you'll get a mass of canadians join the crew.
Everyone makes a difference, even a Canadian.

(that's a joke all you Canada people.)

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Old 12-1-2006, 06:55 AM   #47
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I like the idea of the premium chat.
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Old 12-1-2006, 08:05 AM   #48
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I am up with the idea of pay to moderate for a day. Just kidding. That would be uber bad. On the other hand, you can start this. Let people pay for a random ban against someone else. Yay, random bans.

Get your bans here. Just $5 per throw.

This is just a thought.
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Old 12-1-2006, 08:23 AM   #49
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I love the FFR Community. Ever since I started playing, it's been a good experience. I just started going into the forums and love that also.

As for ideas, what if ffr made a tutorial on how to play. Show everything from combo, to PA, to types of patterns and everything else. I know that if someone is new here, the odds are WAY more likely that you would want that, versus a written out version in the forums. And maybe make it possible to censor/ignore people either in the MP lobby or in forum threads. The MP mods do a good job of limiting spammers and people going in just to be jackasses. But, when they aren't around I know I would definately pay to be able to hit an "ignore ______" button some of the time. As far as payment is concerned maybe have 2 options
1: A bi-yearly payment
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Set the yearly one slightly less then the bi-yearly payment so that it seems more appealing. So if the bi-yearly is $10, have the yearly be something like $17. If it's something that small, I'm sure if they wanted it, they would get it one way or the other. I mean, you can find more change on the street in a year than $20.

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Old 12-1-2006, 08:33 AM   #50
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To impliment premium accounts you're going to have to put enough features into those accounts that would actually make people want to pay money for them. The more features you have, more people will want to pay for them. Though at the same time, more features means more people getting pissed because they can't pay money to get them.

Whatever you put into the premium accounts, if you choose to make them or not, I'm paying for them. Though I'd make it a low, monthly charge, instead of a one-time payment.. I mean, I'm sure most of the older members are looking out for your (synth's) best interest, and a one-time payment would bring in a lot of money one time, but that'd be it. Monthly is at least a continuous flow of cash.

Good luck with all of it, and I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Edit: I like rade's idea for yearly/bi-yearly payments, but I think monthly would do good as an addition to that. Monthly, 3 month, 6 month, and 1 year plans would give a lot of options to whoever's paying.

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Old 12-1-2006, 09:48 AM   #51
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So maybe have it (as an example of cheeper with more payment sooner idea)

That if the Value of a yearly member ship at a Monthly rate is $36.
Monthly payments would be $3
Quarterly payments would be $8 (making is $32)
Bi-Yearly payments would be $14 ($28 in total)
Yearly payments would be $20

If that is too high for your liking you can always adjust down from there. If you do though I wouldn't do as big of jumps. Maybe like 2, 5, 8, 15 or there abouts.

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This is good for me to help with since I am a business major. I'm gonna put some real thought into this. See what I can come up with.
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How about a dollar per month?
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These are all great ideas. Keep them flowing. Right now we have seen (i think) monthly premium subscription rates of anywhere between $1 and $5. We have to evaluate what the potential is here in numbers and that would determine the price. For $1 I don't know if at 3 cents a day I can provide all the support that would be required of us on our end. At the same time I think $5 is too much and would drive away potential subscribers to the site.

Go spread those siggy's out there! Don't forget to use the embed tag code on your own pages or (gasp) your myspace accounts. It allows the user to click on the image as a link. Spreading these things will help a great deal with exposure.

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I've told about 15 people about this site, and about 9 of them still come here.

I'll be sure to keep spreading the word about FFR.

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Old 12-1-2006, 12:22 PM   #55
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I'd probably be able to pay a one time fee, but paying per month is no good because I don't have a credit card.
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$35 Lifetime Fee?
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Old 12-1-2006, 12:40 PM   #57
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For $1 I don't know if at 3 cents a day I can provide all the support that would be required of us on our end. At the same time I think $5 is too much and would drive away potential subscribers to the site.

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Really, what has to be looked at is not only the total number of ACTIVE members (meaning the ones that come on at least once a week) but also how many of the active members would want to use the things that the premium package would have to offer. If there are 250,000 members who at least show up weekly and of those, 10,000 of them find the premium package appealing. You're looking at $300 a day or roughly $109,500 a year before taxes. And that's at $1 a month. However, there is the whole idea of pricing. If you make something too cheap then you might have people think it's not worth it. If you make something too expensive it will drive business away. The key to a good marketing campaign is finding a way to think that people are getting a good deal for how much they're spending. If you make a monthly rate of $3 a month. It's easy for people to afford and they would feel like they were getting a good deal. BUT, if you offer a $3 a month subscription for a $25 yearly payment. It's still easy to pay PLUS if someone stops coming you won't suffer a loss in income. Offering payment options is always the best way to go. It makes it more convenient for the customer, and often leads to more business.

P.S. $3 a month X 10,000 people X 12 months....I have a feeling that should cover all your expenses and more

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Also, what if part of the premium package had to do with drawings or raffles. Every month or two you could have a random winner (in the premium member group) win a prize. Something Worth joining for. Something that as a business person (which you would be if this started) you could get for wholesale and then award to people. I for some reason have a huge feeling that would help bring in members.
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Old 12-1-2006, 12:44 PM   #58
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I totally agree on this idea! FFR should start selling merchandise like they did in the past@
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love the siggy thing!!, and i wouldnt be able to pay for a premium memebership....no credit card access.
If you have a bank accnt you can pay. Most banks offer Debit cards that run through a credit company. Whether it's Mastercard, Visa, or Discover.
If it's really that hard for people to pay this way though, Synth could have an accountant take mail in payments. The only fishy parts about that is A.) It would take a while to know who payed and who didn't. And B.) He would have to allow both cash and checks (checks take at least 2 business days to clear if they are from out of the local area).

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Sorry, I know I'm posting a lot in here. But this is definately up my alley. With this new income would you be willing to pay for rights to songs? Because if you would, you could put more mainstream songs on here which I think would also draw in a larger group.
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The siggy is amazing.
I love you Synth.

Brb, going to a bunch of forums with this in my sig.
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