Old 05-13-2015, 12:10 PM   #241
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Kind of.

The exact rules are murky.

You're given commands. You unrack and then hold the bar until you're given the first command to Start.

You press when you're given the press command, which is usually shortly after the bar touches your chest. It's supposed to reach essentially a paused state because you're not supposed to get a press command until the bar is motionless.

However, in reality that doesn't necessarily mean you have to pause though.

Watch someone like Dan Green press and you'll see what I mean. He lets the bar fall into his chest a bit so that he doesn't lose the bars elastic energy at the bottom.

It's still worth doing a lot of paused bench if you plan to compete, with exaggerated pauses, but in most competitions the pause isn't very long and many people get around it.


Great bench though.

My best benches ever are 275 flat @ 200 lbs and 245 on the incline.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:48 PM   #242
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Thanks for the clarifications Reach!

I've never tried doing an incline or decline bench so my numbers there would probably be very low.
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It's funny that you should say that. It turns out, that was the only goal I may have reached. I say "may" because the rep was a little shaky.

I agree though. My overhead press is far beyond my other lifts.



Results:

Squat: 325 (I had some upward progress at 335 but couldn't get it)
Bench: 265 (I only have 255 on video. My 275 attempt was stupidly close and I am upset)
Dead: 345 (This lift can die. I did 335 for 7 reps about 2 weeks ago and I'm not sure what went wrong. I failed an attempt at 365 and decided to just quit.
Overhead: 205 (This was probably the hardest I've ever fought to finish a rep)


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Squat:



Bench:



OHP:



Deadlift:

I got nothing. It went badly and I didn't have anything recorded
Good numbers. The OHP was a clean and press though, which is harder to perform.

Only thing I noticed was on the bench, try to keep your wrists straight. you'll prevent a lot of damage to your wrists as well as give you more control over the bar. Also that weight is far under your potential. I feel that if you clean up the form a little bit, you could easily nail 275.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:29 PM   #244
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can you show me what you mean about the straight wrists? my wrists always hurt when i bench and i dont do that much weight.


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If you watch Shouka's bench vid that SCWolf quoted you can see his wrists are bent backwards a bit. Basically don't do that

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I'll make a video of me benching or something next time I go to the gym with Northstrong
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already have pics of chris benching in the wild

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i.../1500lbs-1.jpg
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so I'm not sure if this is 'progress' but I strongly suspect my shoulders are limiting my progress at bench press.

triceps are my strong point. I weigh 190lb and can do 12, if not 15 or more bodyweight dips easily after benching and a variety of other accessories. if I went in fresh, I have no idea, but it'd probably be over 20.

I thought pecs were my weak area, but I suspect they're in the middle.

my shoulders are garbage. my OHP is 25lb plates on each side, for reps of 8-10. adding to this, I usually feel shoulder strain after I bench.

going to add way more shoulder volume to my workouts from now on.

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fuck my shoulders, they're naturally loose to the point where i can partially dislocate them, sort of like this

I feel like they're holding back my bench, they hurt like hell when i plank etc.
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190.8 lbs

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magically 189.8 the next day

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Average 7 day weight down from 188.9 to 186.9 since May 10th. Getting solidly back on the cut train, haven't lost any strength.
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marcus keep it up! how much more do you want to go before you try adding mass?
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Not sure at this point. I'm experiencing major difficulties with my lifts in terms of form (I fucking hate squats because I just can't get the form right no matter what I try). It's really demotivating. I haven't been able to progress past 115 without my right knee feeling like it's going to blow out, so I know I'm leaning too far forward... but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to "sit back more" without falling over or screwing up 10 additional things. Frustrating.

Other than that, I was thinking maybe 170 lbs -- or whenever the man boobs go away.

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Not sure at this point. I'm experiencing major difficulties with my lifts in terms of form (I fucking hate squats because I just can't get the form right no matter what I try). It's really demotivating. I haven't been able to progress past 115 without my right knee feeling like it's going to blow out, so I know I'm leaning too far forward... but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to "sit back more" without falling over or screwing up 10 additional things. Frustrating.

Other than that, I was thinking maybe 170 lbs -- or whenever the man boobs go away.
I recommend you give box squats a try.

I've trained a lot of people at this point, and I've gotten them all to squat properly except one. Honestly, I don't think she can. I've measured her and her leg to torso ratio is...ridiculous. She has really long femurs. It makes squatting hilariously awkward for her and I feel like what you're complaining about is what she went through. We tried pretty much everything for over a year and ...I still couldn't get her to squat properly.

I introduced box squats and now she loves squatting.

Set the box at a good height, around parallel, and enjoy. You can sit back into your squats and keep your back upright without ever losing your balance. It makes keeping perfect form extremely easy, and because of the nice pause at the bottom, it actually smashes your quads, hammies and glutes REALLY well (IMO maybe better than regular squats).

The biggest disadvantage is simply...it won't transition linearly to regular squat gains, which is only relevant if you plan to powerlift. Hip flexors are not very relevant when box squatting (which is also nice if you ever injure them), and you won't train your myotatic reflex.

Also, don't come down on the box too hard, can hurt you back. Slowly come onto the box.
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@marcus

Don't stress about something like man boobs. I had them for a while until my pectoral muscle just developed under the boob and diminished the significance of any fat there.

Try doing wide stance squat and see if that feels better.

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I think most people tend to have that one muscle group that just doesn't wanna grow. For me it's the chest. My father is actually built the same way. But I've been working my chest a bit harder lately. It seems like my arms have little to no problem growing though.

Also I can't do much to work my legs because of knee pain :c so I've done mostly upper body workouts.
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I think most people tend to have that one muscle group that just doesn't wanna grow. For me it's the chest. My father is actually built the same way. But I've been working my chest a bit harder lately. It seems like my arms have little to no problem growing though.

Also I can't do much to work my legs because of knee pain :c so I've done mostly upper body workouts.
Generally speaking though, it's a form problem, not that the 'muscle doesn't want to grow'. That's not really a thing. Muscles don't have minds of their own, you're just not activating them properly when you workout.

A legitimate problem would be a narrow frame and or bad pec insertions, which would make your chest appear to be small even if it was big. Not much you can do about bad insertions.

I had chest growth problems in my first year that are long gone now.

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Paused pressing motions. Paused bench. Paused everything, even your accessories. By pausing at the bottom of your pressing movements, you're forcing your body to activate the pecs. You'll find you're weak as hell on paused movements until your chest gets stronger.

Use wider grips for pressing motions. For flyes, use a larger ROM.

Push your chest out! I see a lot of guys doing cable flyes and other pressing motions with no chest, and their shoulders are rounded forward and chests caved in. First of all, that's bad posture, and second, your chest won't grow that way. Learn to keep your shoulders back, back straight, chest out. Good posture during all exercises.
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I recommend you give box squats a try.

I've trained a lot of people at this point, and I've gotten them all to squat properly except one. Honestly, I don't think she can. I've measured her and her leg to torso ratio is...ridiculous. She has really long femurs. It makes squatting hilariously awkward for her and I feel like what you're complaining about is what she went through. We tried pretty much everything for over a year and ...I still couldn't get her to squat properly.

I introduced box squats and now she loves squatting.
Yeah I had been wondering if it was something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3LO2GwpAk&t=3m

But I took a pic of my leg / measured the distances, and my femur is pretty much the same length as my tibia.

I also tried another pic:

http://i.imgur.com/Dn1XRLL.png

Torso (23 in) to leg (39 in) seems OK I think (my measurements are really wishy-washy here). There may be some standardized way to measure but I didn't bother to Google for it yet bc things seemed fine in the pic anyway.

And yet I don't think I have any serious mobility problem either (but maybe I am sorely mistaken here), so it's like, wtf mate.

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Set the box at a good height, around parallel, and enjoy. You can sit back into your squats and keep your back upright without ever losing your balance. It makes keeping perfect form extremely easy, and because of the nice pause at the bottom, it actually smashes your quads, hammies and glutes REALLY well (IMO maybe better than regular squats).

The biggest disadvantage is simply...it won't transition linearly to regular squat gains, which is only relevant if you plan to powerlift. Hip flexors are not very relevant when box squatting (which is also nice if you ever injure them), and you won't train your myotatic reflex.

Also, don't come down on the box too hard, can hurt you back. Slowly come onto the box.
Just need to find an appropriate box to try out, but I'll give these a shot.

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Generally speaking though, it's a form problem, not that the 'muscle doesn't want to grow'. That's not really a thing. Muscles don't have minds of their own, you're just not activating them properly when you workout.

A legitimate problem would be a narrow frame and or bad pec insertions, which would make your chest appear to be small even if it was big. Not much you can do about bad insertions.

I had chest growth problems in my first year that are long gone now.

Tips:

Paused pressing motions. Paused bench. Paused everything, even your accessories. By pausing at the bottom of your pressing movements, you're forcing your body to activate the pecs. You'll find you're weak as hell on paused movements until your chest gets stronger.

Use wider grips for pressing motions. For flyes, use a larger ROM.

Push your chest out! I see a lot of guys doing cable flyes and other pressing motions with no chest, and their shoulders are rounded forward and chests caved in. First of all, that's bad posture, and second, your chest won't grow that way. Learn to keep your shoulders back, back straight, chest out. Good posture during all exercises.
Thanks for the advice! I'm pretty limited when it comes to weights and equipment. I have a total gym but I don't know if any of you like it. I don't have a weight bench but I'm sure I can find something to substitute. I also only have one dumbbell, but I do have a barbell.
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