Old 02-23-2020, 11:00 AM   #1001
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A few hours ago, I told Shadow I wasn't really checking if someone could be coaching someone else, but here I am somehow.
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DaBackPack: There hasn't been anything new from him since I last mentioned it but again, I really don't like his wham bam vote. It was right in the middle of everyone reading into my initial longpost and no one thought twice of him throwing that vote out there, and nobody asked him for an explanation. He didn't give an explanation on that OR on any of the other vague reads he made. He has offered nothing to the game thus far and I'm suspicious of his motives.
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Now that i have reread the thread i have some new thoughts (and some changed opinions )



Rereading this i dont like freezin in this interaction. he hard pushed a joke response to a joke question. a lot of the things freezin wolf reads bolth for actually come off as natural responses and NAI posts. like i said before "tryhard" is the perfect way to describe how i feel about freezin. He's too eager to push the smallest things, which i feel comes from an over eagerness to play the game. This could just as easily be towny as it couldbe wolfy. However i think that this could easily be a towny bolth as well. a lot of the arguments stacked against him i feel could be easily just be explained as him being a new player. If nothing else, i think we should let bolth live through D0, there are better wolves to hunt today.
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IMO Xiz and storn are never wolf partners. Current mindset is that Xiz is doing a maneuver I usually do as wolf: find a town player with moderate heat, hard defend them, and when they flip town you profit.
2nd and 3rd quote is just me wondering if ideas got recycled into posts later on.
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votecount:
bolth (1)- Haku
freezin (1)- fatfuck
Shadow (1)- roundbox
Lar (1)- mellon
storn (1)- Shadow
roundbox (2)- Xiz, psycho
Xiz (5)- DBP, storn, Freezin, Gradiant, bolth
raeko (1)- Lar
May just be a coincidence, but that made me think for a bit.
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:02 AM   #1002
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Probably super wrong as usual.
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mildly hot take: i think we might be in a world of shadow/raeko/psycho wolves.
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1000 post game btw
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:18 AM   #1005
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Shadow is not enough all over the place imo in this game despite the large amount of posting and yet I think I remember Gradiant saying the opposite a while ago.
Raeko is complacent I guess, but I don't know if it's in "don't know what to do about this" way or something else.
I don't know how to Poptart Angel. That would be a difficult solve this phase imo.

I feel like that wasn't helpful.
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:26 AM   #1006
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have a quick reads list whille im at it

roundbox - null to very slight wolf
mellon_collie - wolf lean
MixMasterLar - slight town lean
DaBackPack -town lean
Hakulyte -town lean
FreezinIce - town lean
Gradiant -town
psychoangel691 - wolf lean
Shadow_God_10 - wolf
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Caught up, gonna make a coffee and think about things but quick question: when you guys have been scum in the past, have you ever straight up lied about being busy with IRL stuff? Like, have you ever said you won't be around much because you have a big essay to get done or a crazy day at work but it's total bullshit and a wolf ploy from start to finish?

I haven't since, even in a role where you gotta lie and bullshit to win, it seems like an ethical boundary you don't want to cross. But I'm curious if there's precedence for it happening.
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Your read list makes sense is pretty much all I can say.
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Caught up, gonna make a coffee and think about things but quick question: when you guys have been scum in the past, have you ever straight up lied about being busy with IRL stuff? Like, have you ever said you won't be around much because you have a big essay to get done or a crazy day at work but it's total bullshit and a wolf ploy from start to finish?

I haven't since, even in a role where you gotta lie and bullshit to win, it seems like an ethical boundary you don't want to cross. But I'm curious if there's precedence for it happening.
I did that like once and stopped after because it just kind of felt lame.
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Caught up, gonna make a coffee and think about things but quick question: when you guys have been scum in the past, have you ever straight up lied about being busy with IRL stuff? Like, have you ever said you won't be around much because you have a big essay to get done or a crazy day at work but it's total bullshit and a wolf ploy from start to finish?

I haven't since, even in a role where you gotta lie and bullshit to win, it seems like an ethical boundary you don't want to cross. But I'm curious if there's precedence for it happening.
the more truth you tell the harder it is to spot the lie
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:48 AM   #1011
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Caught up, gonna make a coffee and think about things but quick question: when you guys have been scum in the past, have you ever straight up lied about being busy with IRL stuff? Like, have you ever said you won't be around much because you have a big essay to get done or a crazy day at work but it's total bullshit and a wolf ploy from start to finish?

I haven't since, even in a role where you gotta lie and bullshit to win, it seems like an ethical boundary you don't want to cross. But I'm curious if there's precedence for it happening.
I'm not sure if I have straight up lied, but I have exaggerated amount of time it takes me to do something or just brushed it off with a vague "was busy"

but reading too much into this is hard I think since towns get busy too. it's not really "in game" information like a vote or a read on another player, which depends on your alignment. If you have plans/work that happens regardless of the game
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Old 02-23-2020, 12:06 PM   #1012
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I have a theory that Xiz got lynched because of post #62.
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..and by lynched; I mean wolves moving on the main wagon.
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Old 02-23-2020, 12:10 PM   #1014
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Just more coincidences tho, don't mind me.
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Old 02-23-2020, 12:11 PM   #1015
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I ask because it's coming up a bit this game: storn not being in the right headspace, dap falling asleep, angel (switching off of psycho for the same reason as raeko, lol) having a birthday party to go to, freezin working, haku softclaiming because of work, and of course raeko's EoD play.

Personally, I think focusing on her EoD play is a total waste of time. We can look at what she did before and after, but as far as not moving her joke vote and saying she got distracted despite responding to the odd thing or two: yeah, I believe that. My plans ended up getting cancelled, but originally I was supposed to go hang out and drink at spenner's place, and I would've played the same way: remembered EoD, hopped on my phone, followed along but not fully participated because it's hard to pay attention and focus in that environment, with people yelling and laughing and blasting music and playing smash and all the while you're feeling guilty for being on your phone when you're supposed to be hanging with your homies. Raeko's been and will continue to be a big discussion topic today and time spent picking apart her EoD play is time better spent elsewhere.
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I feel like town reading you over this post because that's quite a feel right now.
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Haku, if you're a wolf then you do you.

If you're town, though, then you're playing individualistically and selfishly. Your fishing and reaction tests only benefit you and your reads at the moment, and as it stands we're going to probably spend a lot of time arguing with/about you. No matter what you gain with what you're doing, you're going to end up having a net negative effect.

Like dap said, more people should weigh in before anything potentially PR or claim related happens, but my stance is this: if you're a PR then please hardclaim if it looks like we're about to waste our time arguing with/about you. Don't let us waste even half a phase if you know we're going to hit a dead end. Same goes if you're VT: definitively walk back the claim and explain your motivations in clear terms. None of this sneaky puppetmaster stuff you're doing now.
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I'm VT and I was just trying to bait a NK on me.
I was planning to fake claim mason with Xiz as a partner using post #62 as fake evidence.
Now, I'm probably just going to get mislynched and hated in postgame for really doing that.
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Goal was to save a tempo on town night actions.
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I wanted to die because I'm literally missing the next like 3 EoDs and having me being absent consistently on the key moment where everyone is online is bullshit.
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