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Old 08-1-2019, 08:58 AM   #21
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On a separate note but relative to lewd stuff, we have music in-game that contains strong language, but if I submit something like let's say, Milky Christmas, would that get rejected for being too lewd?

Because that song is an experience, and exists. Thanks for reminding me of it.
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Old 08-1-2019, 10:27 AM   #22
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Let's explore the topic of what is acceptable levels of "lewd". Please be advised I will be using terms that may be not safe for work. It would be fantastic if a mod could clarify these points so that there is as close to no level of ambiguity as possible.
We have no interest or intention to set down hard and fast objective lines because even trying to give objective lines, a lot of art and imagery is very subjectively in and around lines without being clearly on one side or the other of a line we drew for you.

This is going to have to be one of those "we know it when we see it" things, coupled with "If you think you should check whether something is too far, assume it is too far"

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On a separate note but relative to lewd stuff, we have music in-game that contains strong language, but if I submit something like let's say, Milky Christmas, would that get rejected for being too lewd?

Because that song is an experience, and exists. Thanks for reminding me of it.
There are several songs I want removed from the game because of the lyrics and/or title. Unfortunately, the administration don't agree with me that, for example, our game should not contain a song called "(Gonna Rape) Kylie"

The thing to remember is that this community isn't one where you need to consider if something is 18+ or not, it's one where you need to consider if something is 13+ or not.

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Old 08-1-2019, 10:32 AM   #23
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If accepted, that "Milky Christmas" song wouldn't be as lewd as Slashmaid.
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Old 08-1-2019, 11:44 AM   #24
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how lewd can you go
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Old 08-1-2019, 11:46 AM   #25
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The thing to remember is that this community isn't one where you need to consider if something is 18+ or not, it's one where you need to consider if something is 13+ or not.
In the particular example you gave, I'd be for changing that to asterisks but I can't think of another song in game that's worth doing anything more to. I'd ONLY concede that particular example.

Though it long feels like we're past the site being PG13. See Icyworld's profile for example. That would not fly in a live adapted movie with a PG13 rating.

If this was truly a PG13 site, I would not get away with the word "fuck" as much as I do. (Which I actually see the way we handle words at least... in theory... in most places... most of the time, as pretty good.)
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Just no hand holding. That's a bannable offense.

Tits in a dress (covered up) showing a lot of cleavage is still okay.
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Old 08-1-2019, 02:23 PM   #27
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what's a milky christmas :O
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Old 08-1-2019, 03:03 PM   #28
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In the particular example you gave, I'd be for changing that to asterisks but I can't think of another song in game that's worth doing anything more to. I'd ONLY concede that particular example.
We also are technically hosting the FFRMania database, and there are some equally bad things in there I'd like to be renamed or removed.

Without a comprehensive look at every song, that's the only title I know of that I'd censor. There are a bunch of songs I'd like to either mark with an explicit lyrics warning, or remove if we can't mark them because of the lyrical content too.

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Though it long feels like we're past the site being PG13. See Icyworld's profile for example. That would not fly in a live adapted movie with a PG13 rating.
A user profile is definitely a much more hidden thing than a song title or song lyrics. We've banned plenty of stuff in profiles and avatars for being over the line. A couple elements of icy's profile are pretty close to the edge, but none of them, to me, actually cross it.

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If this was truly a PG13 site, I would not get away with the word "fuck" as much as I do. (Which I actually see the way we handle words at least... in theory... in most places... most of the time, as pretty good.)
A PG-13 movie is allowed one fuck. So when you consider how much dialogue is in a standard 90 minute film, compared to how many words of text are on this site, we're probably below average in rate of Fucks said.
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Our rules are specifically against nudity and pornography.
On this note: Legal guidelines for what constitutes this is a good idea of where to start. Also keep the following in mind:

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Offenses Not Tied Directly to Infractions (The type and level of infraction for these offenses will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis as they are more types of thing than actual offenses themselves)
- Quoting inappropriate material after it has been deleted. (The infraction for this offense will be equal to the infraction for the original post. Quote flaming, infracted for flaming yourself. Quote porn, infracted for posting porn)
- Bait staff through the exploiting of loopholes in the rules. (If you think it is clever to do a bunch of things common sense tells you that you shouldn't, just because no rule says you can't, that is itself actionable. This is basically official notice that sticking your hand in our face and saying 'not touching you! not touching you!' is not going to end the way you want it to.)
This has nothing to do with subjective views on what is "lewd" or not. One of the benefits of keeping this somewhat vague is so someone doesn't try to pull off a "HAHA!" -- think of how there is a catch-all of unsportsmanlike conduct for behavior that's not covered in the rule book for a sport.
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Old 08-1-2019, 03:18 PM   #30
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I'm not a mod and my opinion shouldn't be weighed against theirs but here's an anecdote that might help you

A few years ago I made a thread where I analyzed shitty erotic computer games and wrote reviews for them. I asked the mods for permission and the concept was OK except for a few caveats:

*Don't use any pornographic images or videos in the thread
*Don't link to a website with pornographic material (using names is fine, no URLs)
*No illegal discussion

Granted most of the controversial content was in text and not in image so maybe it's not a great parallel. I'd imagine "no nips, no vagoo" is a good heuristic but you should probably ask the mods to examine a specific layout instead of asking for general advice.

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anime tiddies from the spank bank folder in my grandma's dropbox account? (P.S Asking for a friend.)
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I'm old and senile what the devil is FFRMania?
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Old 08-1-2019, 05:34 PM   #32
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I think as long as you have just have premium sized funbags without anything too explicit (like "hotglue" or aforementioned nipples) you'll probably be fine, and let's face it anything is better than gasai yuno, yandere a shit

also where'd your pfp go
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I'm old and senile what the devil is FFRMania?
It's another library of files you can play on Air, which is full of stuff FFR doesn't have the rights to, and where the difficulties are often hilariously wrong.
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Old 08-1-2019, 05:54 PM   #34
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All of the Futuristic Sex Robotz songs shouldn't even be in FFR imo, except for maybe Back in the Day.
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I don't know if this helps anyone but lets look at Twitter for a second. They allow straight up LESBIAN PORN on their website without batting an eye, and the ToS for them allow 13 year olds to sign up. Their a multi-billion dollar company that doesn't give 2 effs about what people see or don't see. However I know this is meant for 13+ and I think Twitter is a VERY extreme example of exposing porn to teenagers, however I think as far as keeping it appropriate for the age group that's kind of a toss up. In the 80s and 90s, with movies like The Titanic or Coma, those are very popular movies that have full frontal nudity in the film and they are rated PG13 (With Coma being rated PG). There are references to sex trafficking in another PG13 movie called Taken. I'm not saying that we should keep this website PG13 (we are from that), we should be aloud to express ourselves how we want. There should be clear guidelines as to what language is allowed. There was an instance that Drayk was kicked off FFR for a day for saying the N word and didn't know about it. Now i know that racial slurs shouldn't be allowed on the site because that's the easiest way to offend someone. So discrimination in any way shouldn't be allowed. I feel like the heads of the FFR team should discuss what that is. At this time however, I don't think anything such as a woman wearing almost nothing or an image of drugs and/or violence should be considered discriminatory. Those are just my thoughts and you guys can ignore them as you are. I just think that anything discriminatory doesn't help with the spirit that this game is suppose to uphold.
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I legit thought this thread was about me and got really excited....Only to read it and be thoroughly crushed by the content
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All of the Futuristic Sex Robotz songs shouldn't even be in FFR imo, except for maybe Back in the Day.
They are the cause of the majority of my angry posts in the staff discord about song content.
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Does this mean I can't step Kimochii-E-Koto?

(song has LOTS of moaning and stuff)
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They are the cause of the majority of my angry posts in the staff discord about song content.
Eh, that's a bit weak. It's no weaker than anything played on modern radio, if only for the fact it's only more blunt about it.

Which I hate modern radio, but only because it's offensively dull.

Maybe an NSFW note, but I wouldn't remove them.

But also by saying the profiles are harder to find, you kind of remove some of the argument for the ffrmania engine.

But I also admit as has been brought up from other stuff, I'm really out there in the social approaches of shit.

If FFR was still thriving, I could see a lot of this being done to stream line it for more popular mass consumption. But there's uh, other stuff I'd even fix before that.

tldr nsfw tags on certain songs, likely wouldn't hurt anything. But removal would be a bit much.
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It's another library of files you can play on Air, which is full of stuff FFR doesn't have the rights to, and where the difficulties are often hilariously wrong.
it's a wonderful resource if you're actually good at the game

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