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oh yes, Yotsuyu <3 (obligatory Yoshi-P "step on me, prease")
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i thought this was a queenashy thread
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Good choker for when you’re trying to win a collision case at the dmv
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Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
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Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
Thinking this was a queenashy thread wasn't too far off then
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Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
I think there is some truth to this but chokers have been a fashion accessory used by cisgender women for a long time. I can't speak as to the recent cultural perceptions of chokers but I think there is more nuance and history beyond that of modern appropriation.
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I'm sure. Just like I'm sure there are people today who pop the collar of their shirt or coat solely to keep the rain or wind off their neck.

I also have a cousin who has "YOLO" tattooed onto his right bicep because "The first time he ever heard the phrase, and understood it to mean 'you only live once' he was inspired because that is how he has always lived his life, and he claims to have literally never had any idea at all of the general meme use of the phrase"

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Also, I think this stated trend is Eurocentric, whereas Asian countries (especially Japan) have their own histories with neckwear ---- even if some of them borrow from the West via cultural diffusion.

EDIT: Actually, North Africa is a good example too.
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I'm sure. Just like I'm sure there are people today who pop the collar of their shirt or coat solely to keep the rain or wind off their neck.

I also have a cousin who has "YOLO" tattooed onto his right bicep because "The first time he ever heard the phrase, and understood it to mean 'you only live once' he was inspired because that is how he has always lived his life, and he claims to have literally never had any idea at all of the general meme use of the phrase"
I just think it's hard to justify trans appropriation as a sole (or even leading) reason for the prominence of chokers.

Not that it isn't a thing, but I'm pretty sure there's more to it --- I would be interested in an anthropological explanation, for example

EDIT: Googling "choker anthropology" gives me the fucking store, lol

DOUBLE EDIT: https://www.onetribeapparel.com/blog...eaning-chokers labels a few symbolic values of chokers (ignoring the predictable corporate trans-exclusionism)
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