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On September 3rd I adjusted my StepmaniaX Stage to a more playable state and had my first session on it. The up arrow is still a bit funky, but otherwise the pad is pretty good.

This thread is for tracking some goals I have related to foot play in addition to weight loss goals.

September 2018 Goals
- Play every two days
- Pass exotic ethnic 1.8 rate
- Get a star/96% break on a Crossover Spectrum 13
- Get down to 142 pounds
- Consistently play 13s
- Pass Rhythm and Police KOG G3 Mix 2.0 rate
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September 2018

Current weight: 148 pounds

September 7
There was some 170-range streaming this day, but it was more suited for crossovers. I got my first Crossover Spectrum 13 star this session and a pass on exotic ethnic 1.8 rate that raised my 1.7 rate score from a while ago by 2%.


September 9
This session was an hour of only playing 170-range stream songs. The most notable score was a 32 measure run at 173 that I played three times, and the best score was 97.76%.


September 11
In this session I tried out fitkicks for the first time with socks over them. They're certainly good for streaming after you get used to them.

It's worth noting that this is probably the most 14s I have played in one session and I got my first FEC on Silence 1.1x rate. Be Lovin was improved from my first pass which was around 70%. This session was very tiring, and I'll probably have a similar one Thursday.


September 13
Today I started the session differently; I only played three 12s and then after that I only played 13s. I played exactly thirteen 13s this session, starting with accumulating around 120 measures of 155 from Last Message (this was hard to jump into after only three songs), and accumulating about 350 measures of 170-range stream from the other songs. Squeeze is 173 BPM.










September 15
After this session, I've decided to update the September goals to be about consistently playing 13s rather than the specific 170 BPM goal I had previously. After playing a handful of 12s, I did mostly 13s and passed London Evolved 14 again from 170 BPM Eternal with a really bad score.

September 17
In this session I re-passed two Pendulum 14s and FC'd Breathe. Crush is around a 6% improvement from my previous pass. It was a pretty good session, although failing Granite 6 measures from the end was unfortunate (the jack-heavy patterns in that chart kill me).


September 19
This was the first session where I passed 16 measures of 200 BPM stream. I did it four times and after that I was very sore. I might consider uploading the 200 BPM training video I took.

September 22
Since the session on September 19 I noticed my right leg had a sting. For some reason I was also feeling super fatigued (mind and legs felt heavy), and was barely able to do 16 measures of 175. Definitely the worst session I've had so far, and I'm hoping how I felt this day is not recurring (if it is, I'll consider seeing my doctor).

I also got a better idea of what goals to move over to October and what they should change to.
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I'm super jealous you have a SMX pad, from what I've heard they're amazing to play on.
I'm surprised you haven't changed it to have a non-button centre panel though, but I guess that's counter intuitive if you have any desire in smx the game...

Anyways good stuff!! It's also cool to see it motivating for fitness etc


I wonder if there would be enough interest for a pad scores megathread on ffr, btw... I know theres actually a bunch of people who play various pad games here (ddr/itg/piu)
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i don't care if we're playing dance dance revolution i will NOT tell you about my feet
dat exotic ethnic, damn...
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I'm super jealous you have a SMX pad, from what I've heard they're amazing to play on.
I'm surprised you haven't changed it to have a non-button centre panel though, but I guess that's counter intuitive if you have any desire in smx the game...

Anyways good stuff!! It's also cool to see it motivating for fitness etc


I wonder if there would be enough interest for a pad scores megathread on ffr, btw... I know theres actually a bunch of people who play various pad games here (ddr/itg/piu)
I legitimately felt sorry for anyone that wasn't able to get the wave in early August this year. All 100 units sold out within 3 minutes. I ended up missing the first two waves (apparently they sold out in 6 minutes in the previous available units), so it was relieving to get one from this set.

A few things about working with the SMX pad:
- I did replace the center panel with the gray metal panel originally, and it's noticeably higher than the other panels which makes play worse. It's also incredibly hard to remove. Never again.
- Keeping the original panel allows for a smoother surface to play on. Currently the middle panel is a bit lower than the other four panels, but that's much better than being higher. I'll need to get a raiser frame if I want the middle panel to be on the same level as the other panels as best as possible.

At some point in the near future I'm planning on compiling together some recorded videos I took when modifying the pads. Basically, there are four load cell sensors in each panel and you need to take at least three main things into account to get the panels to a better state:
1.) Adjust the outer screw of the sensor
2.) Spin up the sensor head so it's closer to the panel
3.) Loosen the panel a bit so it doesn't restrict the sensor from movement. This does raise the panel slightly.
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what would be a good pad to buy if I can't get one of those bad boys?
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smx are like >1k lmao
pdp are garbage don't touch them
impulse is coming out who knows when but i'm literally waiting for them because i've played on a prototype and it was probably better than any arcade pad i've played on
http://maty-taneczne.pl/ - might be your best bet if they ship to the US (i haven't checked) i know a bunch of people who have one of these and say that it's really fucking good quality. even with some egregious shipping costs, this could potentially cost less than a pdp but still be by far the best choice for an intermediary

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checked the polish pads, they do ship to the US, and even though shipping is like 100 extra euros (base price ~150 euros), it's like literally the same price as a PDP but like infinite times the quality
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To elaborate on what YoshL mentioned about some of the pads:

StepmaniaX Stage (SMX pad)
StepmaniaX Stages started as $1,337 each. Now they're $1,360 and can be expected to increase to approximately $1,385 when you take into account a yearly 2% inflation rate. Shipping is also high (for me it was $275). This means you'd actually aim towards spending roughly $1,650 for one of them if you go with the shipping option as opposed to local pickup.*

*Reason why I started with the shipping method as opposed to other options listed like local pickup is due to the insanely high demand where you battle time vs. buying the pad. Because the demand was so high, the pads sold out within 3 minutes of the link going live for the 100 units that were available in early August this year. You can expect something similar to happen in the next wave. People have expressed concern about locking a purchase request once the user is brought to the order details screen so they don't have to rush in the order.

Something else to consider about SMX is that it is highly supported by the original manufacturer. There is a central store you can go to for most of your needs: whether it is sensors, riser frames to push up your center panel for more level panels, etc. There is also a software configuration tool to check your pad's sensitivity in real time when you are adjusting it. All in all, it's a great pad but the price is definitely up there and every wave could take anywhere from 4-6 months at the current rate. I'm not sure entirely what the bottleneck is, but this is currently the case.

Precision Dance Pad (PDP)
I got one of these originally, and if you're planning on playing songs mostly below 180 BPM and below the 13 ITG level range, these are okay. But when it comes to higher level play, they don't fair very well -- I can agree with YoshL that if you're seriously going to be into the game, these are not the best option. When I got mine it was $350.

Impulse Platforms
The rumored price for an individual Impulse Platform pad was in the range of $600-$800. This means you could potentially get one for nearly half the price of one StepmaniaX Stage, also using sensors based on load cell technology.

As YoshL mentioned, there have not been any units available for Impulse Platforms yet. It's not clear when they will be releasing the first wave of pads, and the lack of transparency as to what the roadmap is (e.g. next two months planning on testing, then release early 2019) is what is turning some people away from this pad as an option despite the positive feedback about the prototype.
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Updated the scores post to have spoilers so it's not as long of a post vertically. September 11/Tuesday has been included as well, being the best session so far.
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Did you participate in Stamina RPG 2.0 this year? Best remote tourny ever. UI for the tournament was fantastic, Ian (archi) the Godfather of Stamina is a boss. ECS [East Coast Stamina] this year is going to be awesome.

I'll have to read through this thread to check out your stuffs. PAD MASTERRACE! (lol keyboard is dead to me)
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Did you participate in Stamina RPG 2.0 this year? Best remote tourny ever. UI for the tournament was fantastic, Ian (archi) the Godfather of Stamina is a boss. ECS [East Coast Stamina] this year is going to be awesome.

I'll have to read through this thread to check out your stuffs. PAD MASTERRACE! (lol keyboard is dead to me)
Long story, but I've been away from the main ITG community for around a year now and I'd prefer it to stay that way, at least for now. Unless there is a good reason for me to come back, I'm better off with the New England Rhythm Gamers group and Happy Feet's Discord.

Without having to worry about the drama and consistent harassment, I can actually enjoy this game again and be goal-oriented with communities that have a growth mindset. Things might be different now, but there's no rush to come back.

Edit: Wording was a bit harsh before.

Edit again: Updated the scores post with today's session (September 13). I played exactly thirteen 13s!
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Need more updates bud quit slackin!!
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I like your enthusiasm -- the routine is definitely important

I updated the September post with the two most recent sessions. Tomorrow I'm hoping it will not be like Saturday (more details in that post).
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