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However, try playing around your posture, your stance, etc.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:18 AM   #22
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I invite you to answer your own question and provide us your position on this subject as I don't think you've given this a lot of thought (similar to most people).
I'm not able to speak for a person (or people with mutual interests) if i had to inquire about their interest obviously. So as someone likely to give thought (similar to most people) you were most likely posing the question as though I had stepped into his shoes, the answer is "i wouldn't". I don't think you've given this a lot of thought
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I'm not able to speak for a person (or people with mutual interests) if i had to inquire about their interest obviously. So as someone likely to give thought (similar to most people) you were most likely posing the question as though I had stepped into his shoes, the answer is "i wouldn't". I don't think you've given this a lot of thought
Oh please, the inquiry was rhetorical which was my whole point so don't dodge my question. Under what basis can you assert (like most people) that vibrating is a useless skill?
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:47 AM   #24
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Oh please, the inquiry was rhetorical which was my whole point so don't dodge my question. Under what basis can you assert (like most people) that vibrating is a useless skill?
I wouldnt even consider it "useless" or "skill." Simply a technique developed to compensate for lacking the speed required to hit a pattern correctly

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Old 01-12-2018, 01:54 PM   #25
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I wouldnt even consider it "useless" or "skill." Simply a technique developed to compensate for lacking the speed required to hit a pattern correctly

I dont care if you like to bullshit your scores, but dont bullshit yourself by thinking you've done something right
How might one correctly hit a long 16th jack at 200bpm? Is vibrating a useless technique here? It is possible to hit this by trilling with two fingers on one key but vibrating is much more practical here if you have the technique.
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TIL I am not allowed to flex my muscles certain ways to hit notes
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:38 PM   #27
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Under what basis can you assert (like most people) that vibrating is a useless skill?
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How might one correctly hit a long 16th jack at 200bpm? Is vibrating a useless technique here? It is possible to hit this by trilling with two fingers on one key but vibrating is much more practical here if you have the technique.
its also possible to wristjack 200, imo. Also, I think a thing to note is that when most people think of vibro, they think of like, loooooooooooong jacks, not 5-10 note jacks and such.

EDIT: also, generally speaking, if a file contains a 200 bpm long jack, most people would just class it as vibro and like, not play the file.

I'm gonna chime in with my 2c on vibro/why I think people tend to dislike it - I feel like vibro is like, a complete contrast from every other stepmania skillset. For example, if you practice streams, or jumpstream, or even chordjacks and such, you improve muscle memory and the skillsets transfer over to one another, somewhat. Vibro, on the other hand, is such a niche and isolated skill, that the only situation being good at vibro helps at, is playing vibro things specifically (like you said, what if a 200bpm long jack occurs in a file).

Because of this, vibro takes specific practice and training to learn to do, and it only benefits you on vibro specific patterns, so most people tend to think it's a useless skill etc.

Another factor that leads to people disliking vibro in modern times is osumania as well, imo - because of how the star rating system in osu works, where NPS = star rating, there comes a point where the only way to realistically increase a maps star rating is to add like, "vibro walls", or long rolls etc, to boost the star rating. Just as an extreme example, there is an osu private server called ripple where any map can be ranked, and because of how the star rating system works, the top level meta is exclusively vibro:



Source: https://ripple.moe/u/3313 (check out arpia hes pro as fuk, regardless of what u think of vibro)

Just as a comparison - a 100% accuracy play on like, Eternal Drain, which is rated 26 in stepmania, would give you 650pp - Many people would argue that being able to do that is FAR more difficult than being able to vibro, and that's where alot of the hate stems from.

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Old 01-12-2018, 03:13 PM   #28
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The application I'm talking about is long jacks, longer than 8 notes for sure.

Personally disliking vibro is one thing, I can't argue against that at all. Invalidating it as a skill altogether by saying it's useless and not worth another player's time in exploring / developing is wrong.

We can continue boxing ourselves in and carry on learning how to manipulate 500bpm streams but why limit yourself is all I'm saying.

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Old 01-12-2018, 03:23 PM   #29
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Dingles practivally covered how I feel about it. Useless is a bit harsh though, I agree. However, I don't feel "boxed in" in terms of StepMania ability by not learning vibro.
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Vibro it's the hardest thing in this kind of games and really take to much time to learn it.
At least for me kills my stamina more quick than a 300 bpm js for like 1 minute of nonstop.

but yeah you can do what icy said that helped me a lot.
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flex your brachioradialis
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whoever said vibro isn't in the forearm needs to learn
a) how to vibro
b) what the brachioradialis is
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Spacegorilla comin in with the 81 year old vibro man tips
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