Old 12-7-2017, 07:23 AM   #1
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How do I get them and what are they?
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Old 12-7-2017, 07:34 AM   #2
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Your tier points are determined by your ability to play certain difficult files. The better you are at the game, the more requirements, and by extension tier points, you will be able to accumulate. You can find your tier point stats page here. Do not be surprised if you can't even obtain a single tier point for quite some time while playing, as you will have to be proficient at 60+ files to start attacking this form of ranking.
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They're under your stats bar. Others cannot see your tier points (the link with the detailed list) at this point and time.



Link: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...evel_tiers.php

They're a measure of progress just like FCs, AAAs.

They're also linked to tier badges that you can find under tokens in your profile.


Does badges do anything ? Not really. They're not linked to token unlocks or anything at this point.

Tiers:

Tier 0: 1 Tier Point
Tier 1: 200 Tier Points
Tier 2: 500 Tier Points
Tier 3: 750 Tier Points
Tier 4: 1000 Tier Points
Tier 5: 1250 Tier Points
Tier 6: 1450 Tier Points

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copypasta'd the wiki faq :^)
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They're under your stats bar. Others cannot see your tier points (the link with the detailed list) at this point and time.



Link: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...evel_tiers.php

They're a measure of progress just like FCs, AAAs.

They're also linked to tier badges that you can find under tokens in your profile.


Does badges do anything ? Not really. They're not linked to token unlocks or anything at this point.

Tiers:

Tier 0: 1 Tier Point
Tier 1: 200 Tier Points
Tier 2: 500 Tier Points
Tier 3: 750 Tier Points
Tier 4: 1000 Tier Points
Tier 5: 1250 Tier Points
Tier 6: 1450 Tier Points

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So they're useless
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So they're useless
More like no one bothered giving this some real value at this point.
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So they're useless
Just as useless as every other bit of stat tracking.

Fun fact: You can get to Tier 1 while being garbage at hard files and just mashing your heart out, since enough songs have 1 tier point for "Pass the song" to get you to 200.
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More like no one bothered giving this some real value at this point.
Never could have.

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Just as useless as every other bit of stat tracking.

Fun fact: You can get to Tier 1 while being garbage at hard files and just mashing your heart out, since enough songs have 1 tier point for "Pass the song" to get you to 200.
Tracking AAAs and basic scores I get. Good way to set solid goals and such since the game is a self-driven game.

But I can't justify tier points this way.
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I wouldnt really worry about them too much until you're a bit better and have a grasp on higher difficulty songs. I know i didnt worry about them until i was high D4/Low D5.
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What if Tier Points could be used like a ticket entry for Division Placement in Official Tournaments ?

Tier 0: 1 Tier Point
Tier 1: 200 Tier Points
Tier 2: 500 Tier Points
Tier 3: 750 Tier Points
Tier 4: 1000 Tier Points
Tier 5: 1250 Tier Points
Tier 6: 1450 Tier Points

Example:

Tier 0: D2 (could be argued and changed to something slightly higher)
Tier 1: D3
Tier 2: D4
Tier 3: D5
Tier 4: D6
Tier 5: D7
Tier 6: D8 (?)

Just theorizing.
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No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.
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the flippered marine mammal knows whats up

tp's are just for numberphiles who aren't satisfied without long, hard data
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No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.
You're the kinda guy who buys lootboxes to skip playing the actual game.
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You're the kinda guy who buys lootboxes to skip playing the actual game.
Lootboxes are stupid and I wouldn't waste my money on them because I hate the concept. Do you want people who can aaa 100s but dont want to waste their time aaaing files that they can aaa on 1.5 with their eyes closed to be put in the same division as a dude who can only aaa 50s but actually farms for points?
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I'd rather people just had fun personally
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No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.
The idea was to mix this up with FFR Rank to decide if a player makes the cut or not.

Top 15 scores is probably better for that tho.
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Do you want people who can aaa 100s but dont want to waste their time aaaing files that they can aaa on 1.5 with their eyes closed to be put in the same division as a dude who can only aaa 50s but actually farms for points?
From a spot of immense bias: yes. I do. I want my files to get played, even if they're not enjoyed. I want the most counter-intuitive systems in this site ripped out and never brought back: Tier Points & AntiPA requirements on Skill Tokens. I'd gut Velo / Legacy engines. I'd take away the tokens given to players who place well in officials and make them either skill tokens or achievement tokens.

Playing the game > Being good at it for me, and in the best interest of the site IMHO.

If you choose to play top-end files, your levelranks reflect it well enough to place. You're not gonna marathon all the easy shit and sandbag, and if you do, trust me you'll get caught. You guys who skip the easy stuff aren't like that (obviously.)
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No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.
Uhh....thats the whole point of the game? Who cares if youre too good to play lower level files, play them anyways. Its fun...

Before i had to stop playing i was mid D6, i still played every song that came out, even it it was a 5. Why? Its the point of the game.... I could be D7 and id still play every song.
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you guys are completely missing my point. this started because he was asking if tier points should be used to place people in divisions in tournaments. tier points do not represent skill. tournament divisions are supposed to represent skill. therefore, tier points should not be used to determine tournament division placements (if a more accurate system exists at least, which it does).
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They absolutely determine skill. I only have 1k tier points, haku has what 1200ish. Hes way better than me....

I see what you mean in a way because not everyone plays every song so not everyone will have as many tier points as they should have/can potentially get. I think this should be fixed if possible. He only suggested it though.

Edit: Literally though, the game is about playing songs. So if everyone realized that and just played the damn songs, easy or not it would actually work out much better. If youre good enough to AAA 90s then you should be aaaing every song up until there(if possible for you) and by doing so you would have a shitton of tier points. Meaning the tier point theory would work. Being lazy obviously messes it up a bit.
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