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Old 05-18-2017, 10:51 PM   #61
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Default Re: Public opinion poll on Etterna Chord cohesion removal

to be fair one of the major factor of competitive bms/iidx/popn/etc scene is getting the "lucky random" so i'd say one could argue we do not need to follow this just for the sake of following the modern rhythm gaming convention
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:54 PM   #62
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one could also draw countless parallels to speed running or things like competitive melee

people don't care what kind of controller you use or how you hold it (ok maybe they care but it would be out of basic intrigue not because they would claim cactuar's hand position constitutes a violation of the smash melee hand position ethics accord of 1999)

people would probably care if you tried to claim the 56/83/97/111 star super mario world speed run wrs right after you played them back to back to back to back

nobody would give a shit if you finished 120 stars in 23 hours with one eye closed and one hand tied behind your back the entire time

do you see where i'm going with this because it's like insane to me that some people (not anyone here I don't think) don't get it

there are things that affect how hard something is to physically execute, and then there are things that affect your ability to make those executions

changes to the former =/= changes to the latter

someone trying to claim a marathon time after running only 18 miles isn't the same as someone running a marathon on stilts

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to be fair one of the major factor of competitive bms/iidx/popn/etc scene is getting the "lucky random" so i'd say one could argue we do not need to follow this just for the sake of following the modern rhythm gaming convention
are you serious about this because this seems really really really stupid to me

it's like olypmic steeplechase except everyone runs a different course and whoever gets the easiest one wins... ????

that's not even competition, lol
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:57 PM   #63
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Default Re: Public opinion poll on Etterna Chord cohesion removal

it's a little less stupid on bms because you can play with the same random seed as the top scorer, but in iidx, yes super competitive players can be often seen failing a song over and over until they get the right random
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:00 PM   #64
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i'm ok with random seeds tbh as long as they're faithfully adhered to

that's sort of what my everlong super shuffle was supposed to be
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i mean you know, other than a joke
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one could invoke the slippery scope argument as well

"anything but 1x xmod is cheating"
"all players must play on a dell model 'bigrubber' 1984 rubberdome keyboard"
"any monitor above 30hz is cheating"
"any pc is considered cheating, play is only allowed on a single specified model of arcade cabinet, yes you are hooking up a keyboard to an arcade cabinet"
"any playing environment that isn't exactly replicatable by another player constitutes cheating"
"any physical reality which may constitute any difference in output performance on a file given a set of prescribed circumstances is cheating"
"all players are mandated to replace their bodies with a standard model cyborg in order to ensure a level playing field"
"all players are mandated to replace their brainwave patterns with a standard model to further ensure a level playing field"
"all scores on the same file with the same mods are furthermore required to be the same, any scores that are not the same are considered to be cheating"
"all scores that exist must exist in a unique combination of different files/mods such that no two scores may be considered for the above mandate, this is to ensure that while the playing field is 100% level everyone is a winner and gets to feel like a special snowflake"

etc etc
This looks like rules for a game that characters in a Star Trek parody would abide by, of which Data is going through them one by one. And now I cannot stop laughing
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