TWG CLIV: An Old School Slumber Party - GAME THREAD

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Have it your way

I have faith in his ability to read you and I agree that a lot of what he said in that large post still holds true in regards to reading you in the present time

Also, DBP wanted to kill DLGN instead of you so I think you may be remembering incorrectly there

I'm not referring to the freeze wars game with dbp btw.

And I can't even argue it because all it will sound like is fucking excuses

I COULD elaborate on the first three days of the game, and the past three days

specifically sunday and monday

but slank cover would be slank

What bothers me is that arnt seems to only be on me due to makillaz seeking replacement

and that's why his logic is fucking shite

if you have a scum read on me at least try to state your case without just kinda piggybacking on the pressure on me

like it's fucking pathetic man

BUT

if I fucking vote you for it right now it's omgus or w/e it's called

explain to me why I should be FUCKING BOTHERED when you're all able to fucking oot voice chat

or zoom

and I literally either can't be there / don't know till it's too late

Like FUCK ME man

fuck me

[XelNya]

FUCK. ME.

[XelNya]

Like if I sound frustrated









I am.

[XelNya]

But it's par for the course I imagine.

[thesunfan]

with all due respect, this is your fault for signing up for an OOTC game without the means to communicate OOT reliably and often

so I have to admit I don't particularly care for this defense

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

with all due respect, this is your fault for signing up for an OOTC game without the means to communicate OOT reliably and often

so I have to admit I don't particularly care for this defense

I wouldn't call it a defense because that's NOT something I tend to do.

I sandwiched in there that Arnt's jump on me is fucking trash based solely on what he said, because there's nothing else SAID to imply it was a jump he was considering that I have access to, pending it being in this zoom video later than where I am at.

or are you lumping that as not worth caring about as well

[thesunfan]

my apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying then

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

my apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying then

It's whatever

[XelNya]

I'm hopin' no one thinks I'm like upset with anyone in particular about the oot thing

that's not it

[thesunfan]

let me outline my case a little bit

I get that you don't have OOTC or a reliable way to do it or whatever.

I don't especially care about that.

What I do care about is the fact that you've had pretty much no involvement with actually trying to solve the game using the information that you have.

Your vote on Red day 0 makes no sense at all and just feels like what you would do to try and look natural.

You're not interacting with other players to try and discern their alignments, you're just kind of posting things that don't have an impact on the game

I've been wrong about this before but not recently

aorn I don't see how I can leave you alive given your play and how I would expect you to continue playing.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

let me outline my case a little bit

I get that you don't have OOTC or a reliable way to do it or whatever.

I don't especially care about that.

What I do care about is the fact that you've had pretty much no involvement with actually trying to solve the game using the information that you have.

Your vote on Red day 0 makes no sense at all and just feels like what you would do to try and look natural.

You're not interacting with other players to try and discern their alignments, you're just kind of posting things that don't have an impact on the game

I've been wrong about this before but not recently

I don't see how I can leave you alive given your play and how I would expect you to continue playing.

See the thing is

you posting the roundbox reference told me what your read of me was with fine detail

HOWEVER

I cannot FUCKING fathom why

In that place and time

for the reasons STATED BY ARNT HIMSELF

He has a vote on me

and it fucking reeks and I'm mad about THAT one.

I'm pretty hung up on it

[XelNya]

1) Xiz
2) mellonxcollie
4) thesunfan
5) Arntonach
7) XelNya
8) Makilaz
9) storn42
11) YoshL
13) DaBackpack

For xiz:

"Xiz - Last Friday at 3:05 PM
careful, you are coming off way too blue bro"

I have a hard time thinking scum xiz would point this out / be concerned about it and that if he was scum I'd have possibly been the kill that night possibly if he was scum. Xiz when he's SK just kills tops town, and if he's scum I imagine he picks top blue lean, discusses it ect.

Raeko is for being the first one to actually take me on my OOT offer from the beginning of the game / how she talked in the zoom call I've gotten through thus far

greggles is greggles

arnt just I both dislike him from the zoom call and reasons recently stated

it's kinda a weak read though admittedly

Storn is null because tbh I don't know shit about where he's coming from ever. Every post I read from him just doesn't lean me either way, it shows an effort but like, I dislike the xiz votes / his interpretation of xiz from the zoom call

Also gonna take a moment for this:

Originally Posted by storn42

i'm feeling quite confident that xiz is a woof. now i know someone is probably going to bring out the "storn is just tunneling" stuff so im probably wrong, but hear me out.

i'd like to bring up a post RB made earlier in the game.

RB actively defends Xiz here and could indicate that he was partnered with xiz. Xiz is also found consistantly defending RB in the zoom and it seemed somewhat week, especially with his defense at 2:21:50 where he pretty much just says "what if he's trying a new meta" to defend RB. passive defenses like that are usually a pretty good thing to do as a woof so nobody really thinks you're actively trying to defend your partner.

Would you consider the case that maybe xiz played devil's advocate to get more discussion and to see where it went?

at 2:24:00 you can see xiz being in some sort of deep thought or something, as whether or not to actively lynch RB, i wonder if this is him thinking of whether or not he should bus his partner as he pretty much pushes for people to agree to push on someone.

Ehhh stretch.

at 1:16:00 xiz refuses to give one of his possible woof reads as he wants to wait to see what other people think about people. i'd think a town member would be more willing to openly say who he was unsure of.

From what I recall / think: xiz likes to see what people say and the give his input to generate more discussion / maybe get responses to advance reads. That's how it's felt to me anyways.

at 1:34:00 xiz starts to explain his scum lean on sunfan, while i previously thought sunfan might have been a woof it was actually quite weak. xiz's reasons on sunfan seemed almost opportunistic rather than scumy things.

Wait, why would you be reading sunfan as scummy?

Mak has been so UTR I'm not playin' with that one

yoshl is based both on the zoom call discussion and charu's trickle of thought post, charu is silly careful in twg despite his joking demeanor but when shit like that gets posted I think it's worth notice / by this thought I wanna side note that I think charu was NOT the godfather

dankpack is more of a gutread based on the zoom call

[XelNya]

Side note on that xiz read

no him side chatting me he thought I was blue is not the important part of my read on him. It's the course of action that is

I THINK that sentence makes sense. Forgive me if it doesn't.

[XelNya]

He thought I was blue" should be "he thought I was coming off blue"

[storn42]

"I'm null on storn cus i don't like his reads" lol. I'm not shitting on you for this, just some of the funniest reasoning I've heard.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by storn42

"I'm null on storn cus i don't like his reads" lol. I'm not shitting on you for this, just some of the funniest reasoning I've heard.

I'm fairly certain that I said I don't get where you're coming from AND that I don't have any info on you at all

not that I don't like your reads directly

Then I threw out some responses to you talking about your xiz read, and you say nothing about it

[XelNya]

Oh and

Arntonach

[XelNya]

and fuck your omgus / wtfic response, go fuck yourself if that's where you're gonna go with it

[Xiz]

xel i wanna talk to you on discord, can ya hop on

[Xiz]

There should be another zoom tonight, if possible.

I should be there at EOD, its the last day my parents are in town before they leave for Korea for a month, so they take priority. But i'll do everything in my power to be there at least an hour before EOD.