TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

oh my I had to look at player lineup to realize plopadop was in this game

he hasn't even viewed the thread dude

[lurker]

guys i wasn't lying

[Nighthawk252]

Oh wow I go for like 3 hours and I miss like 8 pages

Catching uppppp

[Nighthawk252]

Sorry this post is taking longer than I thought. Trying to trim down unnecessary parts and make it into something somewhat coherent

[Nighthawk252]

Starting off with a few macro issues before going into some minor quotes.

First, choof. I remember last game I played with him he said he had a pretty distinctive town game. He was town last game and I've been getting a pretty similar vibe from him this game. Would others who have played with choof agree that he's got a distinctive town game, and is this it?

Second, Zenith seems weird to me.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Also ayy lmao my alignment is terrific I'm actually really digging my role

This isn't saying "Oh yay, I'm happy to be town". It's explicitly including third parties (and definitely hinting at being one) which makes me lean Jester.

This can be read as VT behavior. Hinting at being or acting like a special is something VTs do all the time to draw wolfings. The problem is that this game has Jesters, and this seems like pretty blatant Jester behavior. I don't see an actual special doing something so blatant. An actual special probably wouldn't want to get into WIFOM regarding whether or not they're special, they'd probably just want to stay under-the-radar.

The potential for this being wolf (or SK) behavior is there too. If everyone reads this as Jester behavior, Night killers will want to avoid killing Zenith. They'll have bigger fish to fry.

From most likely alignment to least (for Zenith) I go Jester>Wolf/SK>VT>Survivor>Special. Zenith's being cryptic makes me more confident in that read. Things like:

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

whoever rolled vt I feel bad because you're going to have a boring game

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

AA is making a really bold statement about me not being the jester why do you know this and how can you confirm I'm really not the jester?

only way you'll figure that out is if you are some form of a seer and peek me which imo is not the best peek you can receive n0

Someone who disagrees with me on this, though, is AragakiAyase, who was actually the first person to vote for Zenith. But his reason for unvoting is pretty weak. Why are you "unvoting to be safe" when insta requires like 8 votes and you are vote number two or something? And why don't you put it back on when you read that Zenith definitely isn't the Jester? Looking for explanations for this.

Originally Posted by storn42

im curious about j-rodd and mashi, the way they are playing, almost makes it seem like they're both jesters....

Have you played with both of them together before? I was thinking the same thing when I played with them last game, but other people who had played with them before didn't think that way. For your info, last game J-Rodd was a wolf and Mashi human. Mashi seemed to me like he was heavier on the LOCK CLEAR stuff than J-Rodd that game but maybe I'm misremembering.

Originally Posted by storn42

which is part of the reason why i say seems... also... jesters would atleast try to make themselves not obvious, and with the last post of J-rodd, im going to guess they're not jesters.

What do you think they are then?

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

should i fake a few reads before i go to bed?

Struck me as weird. Seems to me like you lose the point of the reads if you're being upfront about how fake they are.

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

guys, has charu toned down on the white noise d0 posting recently? i expected more posts from him

Curious as to what FG means by "white noise d0 posting". Is it the type of thing charu's been doing since he started posting?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

also yoshl, shouldn't insta be 8 people? the description says 2/3 rounded down, 2/3 of 13 is 8.67 which rounded down is 8.

Seems to me the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to notice but also the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to ask via PM.

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

Curious as to what FG means by "white noise d0 posting". Is it the type of thing charu's been doing since he started posting?

Usually Charu makes a lot of joke posts early in TWGs, and this game he was noticeably quieter.

It's just weird because this is an act he can keep up as VT, PR, and wolf. I was wondering if Charu rolled third party this game or something or if this is just an attempt of his to change his play style.

I'll look at more stuff while I'm awake I guess. Can't sleep. Ugh.

[Funnygurl555]

oh yeah nighthawk your avi reminded me that i still have half of got to go ughhh oh well might spend my night grinding through that

if i still cant

sleep

[Nighthawk252]

What are your thoughts on his posts in the middle-end of page 7? They seem kind of like forced joke posts to me but I don't know Charu all that well.

[Nighthawk252]

also totally watch GoT

If enough of his friends do Mashi will be peer-pressured into finishing Season 5!

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

What are your thoughts on his posts in the middle-end of page 7? They seem kind of like forced joke posts to me but I don't know Charu all that well.

Yeah those are more the type of posts that I was expecting him to make since Page 1, and his subsequent posts don't seem all that bad either. The fact that he waited so long to post normally does make me believe that he's up to something though =/

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

also totally watch GoT

If enough of his friends do Mashi will be peer-pressured into finishing Season 5!

hahahaha mashi isn't caught up what a scrub

[Funnygurl555]

I guess I should add that there are a few posts of Zenith's I find weird so I kinda don't like Zenith ATM (sry)

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Also ayy lmao my alignment is terrific I'm actually really digging my role

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

whoever rolled vt I feel bad because you're going to have a boring game

And that based on the AA/Zenith catfight I'm betting that they're not partners. I didn't get anything else out of it though because I kinda stared at the posts like


I don't mind giving j-rodd and choof slight town-leans. nothing that choof has posted so far seemed off to me although he has one of the highest post counts in the thread so far, and I would imagine that j-rodd wouldn't have been so enthusiastic this game if it he rolled wolf for the 11th time in a row.
i guess that could be an act but really
haha

[freakysnots]

i'll be pretty tame this game. let me grab dinner first, brb in 2 hours or so.

freakysnots

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

Someone who disagrees with me on this, though, is AragakiAyase, who was actually the first person to vote for Zenith. But his reason for unvoting is pretty weak. Why are you "unvoting to be safe" when insta requires like 8 votes and you are vote number two or something? And why don't you put it back on when you read that Zenith definitely isn't the Jester? Looking for explanations for this.

You haven't played with me before so you wouldn't know this but I'm super conservative with my votes. Insta requires 8 votes but like I said, it was an unvote "to be safe" and that fits my conservative voting pattern. I didn't put it back on him because I didn't feel there was a good reason to have my vote on him even if I'm not reading him jester. I did say I thought he was probably 3rd-party or scum but I want to take some more time to read him before I vote him again.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

Seems to me the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to notice but also the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to ask via PM.

I asked it in thread just so it would be more obvious to everyone so that we're all on the same page and have a lower chance of a mislynch. If you want to angleshoot that then lol


Also about Zenith having very jester behavior, he isn't afraid to go into full-WIFOM territory as a non-VT. He's hardclaimed wolf before as a wolf so that makes me think he's not a jester in addition to what I said earlier.

[YoshL]

Votes from post 0 to post 0
Night in 0:00:39
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- freakysnots -- j-rodd123 (35), Charles Claythorne (10), freakysnots (1)
• 2 -- AragakiAyase -- choof (34), Nighthawk252 (7)
• 1 -- MrPopadopalis25 -- _Zenith_ (24)
• 1 -- Charu -- Funnygurl555 (11)
• 1 -- storn42 -- lurker (2)
• 1 -- j-rodd123 -- storn42 (10)
• 1 -- unvote -- AragakiAyase (22)
• 3 -- not voting -- Charu (23), DaBackpack (50), MrPopadopalis25 (0)

:56 good :57 bad

8 to insta

[j-rodd123]

Zenith arguing with someone over possible roles and reasons for it was pretty weird

[j-rodd123]

Also I think it's probably easier for wolves to appear towny in this setup with all the alt win conditions and probably 3rd party alignments.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

not jester but ouch that vote hurts more than you realize

@zenith did you softclaim hated here? given your choice of words, i think it isn't outrageous that AragakiAyase interpreted it as that.

@AA are you hated? because hated isn't red and i want to lynch a wolf today.

[freakysnots]

@jrodd, get off of me i'm green this game. look at how tame and sane i am.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

@zenith did you softclaim hated here? given your choice of words, i think it isn't outrageous that AragakiAyase interpreted it as that.

@AA are you hated? because hated isn't red and i want to lynch a wolf today.

no I am not hated so I don't get cleared that way