Old 03-1-2015, 03:36 PM   #9301
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I actually attempted to step Aragami and it came out pretty bad. It'll be interesting to see what you did with it.

(also sent fixes for Zauberkugel)
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Fixes for the September/October batch are now closed. The following fixes were received by regualrffrsubmissions:

Azul (Remix) (DarkZtar)
Azure Emotion (DarkZtar)
Children's War (DarkZtar)
Dark World (buta-san)
Desertion (M0nkeyz)
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Ongaku -kaiongaku mix- (lurker)
Over the Rave F.O.R. Remix (trumaestro)
PWRPFF RAVES (MarioNintendo)
Spinal Fluid Explosion Girl (MarioNintendo)
Wheelpower & Go (MarioNintendo)
Wild horses (M0nkeyz)
Zauberkugel (gameboy42690)

If you sent fixes but do not see your file here, you can post or PM me any concerns.
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just the difficulty it was stepped on, nothing to do with how hard the chart is
figured but it was worth making the joke anyway
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oh yeah also we still don't have blanket p*light permission so i have no idea why trigger happy and one more lovely remix are getting sent in
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That's what I thought as well, until I caught this series of messages on my Skype:

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[1/1/2015 4:31:14 PM] jimerax: I missed a message from 1 month ago, but songs of this artist can be used for FFR without restriction, or contact
[1/1/2015 4:31:28 PM] Nathan: oh?
[1/1/2015 4:31:32 PM] Nathan: everything from P*Light?
[1/1/2015 4:32:36 PM] jimerax: anything but songs copyrighted by a company
[1/1/2015 4:33:01 PM] jimerax: basically, almost everything
[28/02/2015 3:51:05 AM] Caliber / Fullerene: o cool
[28/02/2015 3:51:09 AM] Nathan: i wouldnt touch anything used in sound voltex or whatever the newest hip japanese rhythm games are these days
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That's what I thought as well, until I caught this series of messages on my Skype:
To add to this, TRIGGER★HAPPY is the Hommarju remix which to my knowledge has not been used in a Bemani game at this point in time.
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sounds like he's giving the okay for all music on his own label without permission (can't tell if this only applies to his own music on the label or not), BUT any music he submits to other labels requires their permission, not his
i thought trigger happy was the original so i apologize for that, but that doesn't explain why nathan sent in oml remix
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No permission for the original then?
But the extended mix isn't copyrighted by SV so we can just cut it to get the original.
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To add to this, TRIGGER★HAPPY is the Hommarju remix which to my knowledge has not been used in a Bemani game at this point in time.
Trigger happy remixed by Hommarju would require Hommarju permission, right?
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sounds like he's giving the okay for all music on his own label without permission (can't tell if this only applies to his own music on the label or not), BUT any music he submits to other labels requires their permission, not his
i thought trigger happy was the original so i apologize for that, but that doesn't explain why nathan sent in oml remix
What would be wrong with sending OML P*Light remix? It's not contracted to any game, right?
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Trigger happy remixed by Hommarju would require Hommarju permission, right?
Oh, yeah, this is true. The .sm file has the artist as P*Light, so I thought that it was the artist doing a different version of their own track, which would have been fine. The user who sent the email mentioned that they had contacted the artist about permission and hadn't heard back yet. Didn't specify if P*Light or Hommarju was contacted.

I'm not seeing anything on Hommarju's pages about secondary music composition use, so it looks like he'll have to be contacted about it. I'll remove the file for now.
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Oh, yeah, this is true. The .sm file has the artist as P*Light, so I thought that it was the artist doing a different version of their own track, which would have been fine. The user who sent the email mentioned that they had contacted the artist about permission and hadn't heard back yet. Didn't specify if P*Light or Hommarju was contacted.

I'm not seeing anything on Hommarju's pages about secondary music composition use, so it looks like he'll have to be contacted about it. I'll remove the file for now.
I'm send that song, so... I need the permission from Hommarju's? I think P*Light music has the permission for using his music on FFR (I got that info in the reply after send the submission of that song), but the remix is in his soundcloud account.
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What would be wrong with sending OML P*Light remix? It's not contracted to any game, right?
it's signed to beatnation records (aka bemani's label) konami digital entertainment, therefore according to p*light's site we would need permission from them (not happening)
p*light's site explicitly mentions "circles" which pretty much means labels as far as music is concerned

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No permission for the original then?
But the extended mix isn't copyrighted by SV so we can just cut it to get the original.
something something eos
due to the wording p*light used and because it appeared on sdvx two months before the extended version was released, i would be wary of using the original; i think konami must have some sort of license on it since it appeared on one of their cds
as far as the remix goes, i think the statement on his site applies to all music exclusive to pichnopop, not just p*light's own

on a related note if anyone in charge of the batches thinks i'm being hypocritical because i submitted ongaku (permission for leaf's music was obtained after it was released in sdvx and he said nothing about not using it), feel free to remove it
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EOS is in game though, don't see what your point is.
Mm, okay. I'm sure it can be left in the batch (maybe in game) until Konami files a C&D, which isn't too bad.

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i'd argue that it should've been removed as soon as ginkiha said not to use it but on second thought it's not really applicable since the song came out years before it got into sdvx, and since nothing happened to the bms version i'd assume it's safe
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EOS is from BoF so it should be usable regardless of what any artist says
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"hello i'm ilikexd and i believe music artists don't have a say in how their music is used"
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ginkiha gave the track EOS as a contribution to the open project BMS of Fighters, which distributes the music freely and allows others to use the music freely for other creative projects as long as credit is given. As far as I know, ginkiha doesn't have the authority to renege permission for EOS to be used given the terms of its contribution to the project of BoF.

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you don't know if ginkiha agreed to anything that could undo that when he got eos into sdvx but tbh it seems likely to me that "infinite edit" was added to allow previous cuts to remain open source
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Mm, okay. I'm sure it can be left in the batch (maybe in game) until Konami files a C&D, which isn't too bad.
1. didn't someone say ffr's legal e-mail address was completely inaccessible to current staff?
2. can't this lead to shit like "hey why can't i submit my awesome metallica file we didn't get a C&D from them yet"?
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2. can't this lead to shit like "hey why can't i submit my awesome metallica file we didn't get a C&D from them yet"?
No it can't because we don't have blanket or partial permission from Metallica, or from any label or project under which Metallica has released music, so it's not comparable.
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[One More Lovely P*Light Remix is] signed to beatnation records (aka bemani's label), therefore according to p*light's site we would need permission from them (not happening)
p*light's site explicitly mentions "circles" which pretty much means labels as far as music is concerned
Can you show where it's signed to this label? From searching I only see it as part of the True Blue album and not under Bemani in any way.

Additionally, are there any bilingual Japanese/English speakers who can make clear and unambiguous sense of P*Light's permission terms listed on his website, Especially in regards to what "circles" means?

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Jimerax only ambiguously says "basically, almost everything", but there is something specific mentioned in the terms that should be clearly determined for FFR's sake.

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