TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Pit]

im a little hurt not rly and it's understandable that you don't believe me

but I don't feel like I should die this phase either

[TWG Little Mac]

I am inclined to believe both of the claims presently, Mega Man.

Both of them are out of left field and weren't warranted.

[TWG King Dedede]

WOULDN'T GO FOR PIT THIS PHASE, NO. DON'T THINK A WOLF WOULD ASK TO BE SCRUTINIZED BY CLAIMING AN ALREADY-CLAIMED ROLE LIKE THAT. caps

[TWG King Dedede]

BUT I WOULD OPT FOR PIT OVER LINK, I THINK? IF THOSE WERE MY ONLY TWO OPTIONS. caps

[TWG Link]

I wouldn't support a Pit lynch at all at this point. Little Mac puts my reasoning in simplest terms.

[TWG Link]

what dedede why would you opt for pit over me

[TWG King Dedede]

BECAUSE I HAD BEEN READING YOU AS TOWN FOR REASONS I CAN PUT A FINGER ON. I HAD PIT AS TOWN TOO, BUT IT'S FOR REASONS I CAN BARELY PUT WORDS TO. KIND OF DISREGARDING THE CLAIMS HERE FOR THE REASON I STATED EARLIER. 2 CLAIMS MIGHT AS WELL BE NO CLAIMS. caps

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Little Mac

I am inclined to believe both of the claims presently, Mega Man.

Both of them are out of left field and weren't warranted.

No. Pit's claim was not out of left field at all and is completely warranted if he is red.

Pit's claim was after 2 things happened:

1) There was a KitB with Villager, Link, and Yoshi, who are the least towny reads in the pool. There is a very high chance given voting patterns that one of them is a wolf.
2) There was an Oracle claim.

I said wolves are in dire straits right now. If you think that a fakeclaim on Oracle right now is unwarranted for wolves, you're very wrong.

Consider how dire the wolves situation is:

- If indeed the situation is as simple as it appears to be, there is 1 of each listed role in the game. All the evidence so far supports this theory. One of the two cops was fakeclaiming.
- If this is true, wolves probably have additional evidence that this is the truth, in that there is probably 1 Godfather and 1 Roleblocker.
- If Occam's Razor applies here, there is 1 Bomb in the pool.

Remember how I said before that our situation is FUCKING AWESOME?

There's 2 wolves left. There's probably one Oracle, one Bomb, and one Guardian left.

If that is indeed the case, that is enough confirmed humans to win the game. We just have to force a 3/2 day and if wolves have not fakeclaimed, we win.

And that's assuming the wolves don't trip over the Bomb first and make things even more hopeless for themselves.

Very. Fucking. Dire. Straits. I don't think they stand a chance in hell without roleclaiming.

I absolutely believe one of the two claims is fake, and I think that it isn't Greninja.

[TWG Mega Man]

Yes there could be 2 Oracles. I don't think it's impossible.

The real question here is, is that what's likely going on?

And it isn't.

If I'm wrong about Pit, Greninja looks way scummier and conveniently has 1.1 phantoms on him, so if we leave him to the very end we'll win.

[TWG Mega Man]

Assuming we get one wolf or the wolves hit the Bomb.

Which is super likely.

[TWG Pit]

kill me and then go for greninja if you think that mega man I dare you =)

[TWG Little Mac]

Okay, I follow through your logic here on this. This claim by Pit in your opinion would then be launched in a DESPERATE attempt to save a fellow partner? That would be the only reason for initiating a fake claim right?

If Pit is trying to save a partner, clearly it isn't Villager since Pit just voted for Villager.

Who is Pit trying to help out since they are in a dire situation?

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Little Mac

Okay, I follow through your logic here on this. This claim by Pit in your opinion would then be launched in a DESPERATE attempt to save a fellow partner? That would be the only reason for initiating a fake claim right?

If Pit is trying to save a partner, clearly it isn't Villager since Pit just voted for Villager.

Who is Pit trying to help out since they are in a dire situation?

Not just to save a partner. It wouldn't even matter if we mislynched today.

What matters is that we're getting ever closer to being able to win by force just with claiming roles.

And as long as there's 3 blues left in the pool, wolves cannot win this game without claiming.

[TWG Mega Man]

In fact, what I think might be the best thing to do right now is have all blue roles come forward, besides the Bomb.

If we can get 3 confirmed blues we win the game and wolves can't even wolf the blues without giving their fakeclaims away.

[TWG King Dedede]

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO SAY CONCERNING THE LYNCH UNLESS PEOPLE SWITCH THEIR VOTES. THIS'LL BE MY LAST POST THIS PHASE UNLESS SOMEONE ASKS ME A QUESTION OR MEGA MAN STROGARMS ME TO VOTE SOMEONE.

MEGA MAN, FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE THIS GAME, I DO THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE HOW THIS GAME ENDS. BUT I THINK YOU'RE WRONG ON LINK/PIT. caps

[TWG Mega Man]

Goddamn it I wish I thought of this sooner.

Okay, the best thing we can possible do right now is no lynch, if the most votes on no lynch takes priority over less votes on a target, i.e. there's a no lynch if there's 3 votes for no lynch and 2 votes for a player.

Xiz, is this the case?

[TWG King Dedede]

YES, NO LYNCH IS AN OPTION, I ASKED XIZ EARLIEr

[TWG Mega Man]

Because as Dedede said it's best if we can get to a 5/2 situation, and skipping down to 4/2 isn't that big a deal but it's better to keep as many greens up for the wolves to potentially kill at night as possible.

[TWG Mega Man]

Please do it. Please vote no lynch.

[TWG Little Mac]

there are 4 minutes. how will this help. you'll have to convince people in literally no time at all.