TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Pit]

oh you're not believing me

ugh ok rip me BUT IF YOU SEE MY FLIP 8)

[TWG Pit]

8))))))))))))

[TWG Pit]

I mean why would I do this as a wolf? It's incredibly risky, I'm not exactly being read as town by everyone right now so there is a high likelihood that I would die, and I'd leave my last wolf partner behind

Let's trust me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TWG King Dedede]

WOLF-PIT HAS NO INCENTIVE TO FAKECLAIM ORACLE THERE, VOTES WERE AT 2-2-2 NOT ON PIT SO LIKE, NO. I THINK IT'S REAL.

BUT I THINK GRENINJA IS REAL TOO?????

AT THIS POINT I FEEL LIKE YOU JUST SET THE CLAIMS ASIDE AND TRY TO READ EVERYONE. REALLY DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT LYNCHING INTO THE BLUE CLAIMS.

UUUUUGH GRENINJA ARE YOU WOOFING caps

[TWG Little Mac]

Pit wasn't in ANY relative danger at all. Not even a vote on the board and Pit hasn't voted. Even if you perceived you're not trusted, you have no marks against you currently.

I somehow believe this. But this leads me to believe that greninja is lying about which PR they are or they are lying about having a role altogether.

I can't see two oracles in the same game. Can anyone else justify a balanced game with two oracles?

[TWG Little Mac]

If you ninja me one more time oh my.

[TWG King Dedede]

REGARDING BALANCE: YES I THINK TWO ORACLES COULD BE POSSIBLE. [2 ORACLES 0 BOMBS] AND [1 ORACLE 1 BOMB] ARE PRETTY SAME-Y TO ME, SO I FIGURE IF YOU CAN ROLL ONE THEN YOU CAN ROLL THE OTHER.

THE SETUP IS REALLY OPEN-ENDED. I GET DOUBTING THERE BEING A DUPLICATE, BUT I SEE IT AS A POSSIBILITY. caps

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG King Dedede

AT THIS POINT I FEEL LIKE YOU JUST SET THE CLAIMS ASIDE AND TRY TO READ EVERYONE. REALLY DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT LYNCHING INTO THE BLUE CLAIMS.

This is actually perfect because regardless of who's telling the truth, we're getting a great situation out of it.

We can now leave Greninja and Pit alive. This is easily the best course of action because wolves cannot kill one without a) giving us a full cardflip, and b) giving away that the other is lying. Both of them are heavily active and we have plenty of dirt to weigh their words with.

It is distantly possible that Xiz has a different idea of what balance is than me, and they're both telling the truth. This is great for us too! The Guardian hasn't died yet, so if one exists in the game (I think it does), he can now safely ignore two people and guard from a tinier pool, i.e. has a higher chance of success!

In addition, the wolves are also forced to wolf from a smaller pool, which (likely) contains a Bomb!

Even if we don't get to use our cardflips conventionally, we're still getting a lot of utility out of this.

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG King Dedede

REGARDING BALANCE: YES I THINK TWO ORACLES COULD BE POSSIBLE. [2 ORACLES 0 BOMBS] AND [1 ORACLE 1 BOMB] ARE PRETTY SAME-Y TO ME, SO I FIGURE IF YOU CAN ROLL ONE THEN YOU CAN ROLL THE OTHER.

2 Oracles is nowhere near as good as 1 Oracle 1 Bomb.

Automatic -1 wolf (who may not even be on the radar), versus one cardflip which risks giving away blues? You serious?

No contest, Bomb has way more utility than Oracle.

[TWG Pit]

sweet so villager or Yoshi at this point they can't be wolves together so the flip of one might be helpful to read the other ????

villager

[TWG Link]

best plot twist

[TWG King Dedede]

DEDEDE IS GOOD WITH THAT.

1 HOUR LEFT YALL. I'M NOT VOTING LINK, AND I DON'T THINK I'M VOTING YOSHI EITHER UNLESS COP #2 COMES OUT WITH A WOLF PEEK. COP #2 PLZ SAVE US FROM OUR SINS


P-EDIT: YEAH, I AGREE MEGA MAN, BOMB > ORACLE. WHICH FURTHER CONFOUNDS THE BALANCE SPECULATION TO ME. caps

[TWG Link]

Pit, why Villager over Yoshi?

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Pit

I mean why would I do this as a wolf? It's incredibly risky, I'm not exactly being read as town by everyone right now so there is a high likelihood that I would die, and I'd leave my last wolf partner behind

If your partner's on the lynch table?

If your partner's on the lynch table, and you've noticed that multiple town already suspect you (they do), then wolves are in dire straits, and fakeclaiming Oracle is definitely something that I can see you doing as a red in this situation.

Especially when you break the KitB by voting for the player that my gut won't stop believing is green.

[TWG Link]

say where is greninja wasnt he on my case for like 2 pages before

[TWG Mega Man]

Bomb, you probably know this already, but just in case you want to be cool like these Oracles, DON'T CLAIM.

[TWG Mega Man]

I don't even care if you get put on the lynch table.

No matter what, Bomb, don't claim.

[TWG Link]

Megaman, the only two people who have been on the lynch table from the looks of it were Yoshi and me. Pit has been against Yoshi for this entire game. I can't tell from your perspective, but Pit and I have had a rocky relationship with respect to each other in terms of suspicion and nonsuspicion (probably because we're close friends and know how we play), if that means anything to you. I know I'm human, so I think the claim is potentially legitimate.

Pit, why did you delay your claim for so long?

[TWG Pit]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

If your partner's on the lynch table?

If your partner's on the lynch table, and you've noticed that multiple town already suspect you (they do), then wolves are in dire straits, and fakeclaiming Oracle is definitely something that I can see you doing as a red in this situation.

Especially when you break the KitB by voting for the player that my gut won't stop believing is green.

But this would also mean that if Greninja were telling the truth then you guys might start turning your attention toward me, or you could just resume taking down my partner again
but that does buy up a phase. hmm...

so if I couldn't think of this then do you think this is the reason that i'm doing it?

hahahahaha probably not

Originally Posted by TWG Link

Pit, why Villager over Yoshi?

Yoshi's not here and I dunno I just feel weird with killing him off

I mean I'm okay with both of them, but I'd feel better killing someone who's been around more for at least this phase.

[TWG Link]

Wait, actually, it was probably because you figured your death could still be helpful with a flip or something, so I guess that was a dumb question.