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Old 09-16-2014, 11:07 AM   #561
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

We already discussed role hunting is bad.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Then you would like to keep the roles quiet if we kill town? If we kill another town, wolves get a night kill, and then boom it's 3-2. Got any better ideas? When I said that, it was hypothetical for if our lynch flips green.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

And in the case we do get a wolf in our lynch, IF AND ONLY IF a role can hard lock someone red without ANY doubt, they should reveal, and gg folks town wins.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

dfr is making some strong points here... especially with dat if and only if~

I was distracted by the cute penguin with a gun but now here's some more to think about:

So now three out of the four of those we were considering have come forward and mirrored many of my own thoughts about equating a kill of Blanky or Choof to "RNG" and all just not knowing where to place choof. It's so dangerous to make this decision, because the wrong one puts us in such a bad place.

This is such an important phase and could very well be the deciding decision of this game. Like dfr just said, if we fuck this up then it's 3-2 and lordy we'd HAVE to do something at that point.

Do we take a shot at Blanky or Choof, or do we go for the relatively "less" active that is in higher suspicion? (I refuse to call any of you inactive now because everyone just contributed more or less)

The key to this is figuring out which of Blanky and Choof are legitimately unsure of the other. Because we will just dance around until that's figured out.

I am up for one of the following:
Assuming Choof, Blanky, AND myself are green, lynch someone and see where that goes.

Going for one of Choof and Blanky and praying for the best.

Each of those has a 50/50 shot when you account for the assumptions you have to make in both. (Assumption 1, All three of us are green. Assumption 2, One of them is red)
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:20 PM   #565
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Even if that's all true, they're another red to look for, so why not think of other possibilities on who the other mafia is?
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Because at this point I see around 8 different combinations of who the mafia jointly are.

Choof/Any of the other four
Blanky/Any of the other four

Even if I went with some of my pulls, that'd leave me with

Choof/You or Tox
Blanky/You or Tox

I will "eat a pine cone" (quote, Rushyrulz) if BOTH of them are wolves. They deserve a trophy.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

in before I'm eating a pine cone.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

we still have like... ~33 hours right? I need to finish this school day and hopefully post some more insightful stuff when I get home.

But without thinking about any of the posts just yet (because I don't have much time), allow me to show the severity of these last few hours:

WORST CASE SCENARIO TIME:

We lynch a green, shocked and in disbelief, we yell at each other in the night phase about who's the wolf now (4-2). The wolves at the end of the night kills the most important and most contributing member of town (maybe they knock out a role accidentally [and now 3-2]). As the day starts, a dazed and angry member throws a vote out somewhere on a town, wolves see this, they tack on their two votes. Boom... insta (2-2). Wolves get their night kill (1-2), and insta the last town (0-2).

I know I'm just throwing almost fluff and doomsday stuff out there, but I'm just trying to show that this is crunch time, and we need to throw all emotion and anger previously stowed away in us, and think clearly. This is the game.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

wao way to ninja me, i'm tryin to make this epic post and stuff. xP
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Anyways, gl while i'm gone.. i'll be back around 4pm est.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

It's not just fluff posting. It reminds us how alarmingly fast this could all go to shit given the next lynch.

Also gl get that education.

I have work very soon and won't be back until around 9:15 EST, so hopefully there is some more discussion generated before I get back.

I think later tonight I'm going to hold a seance for Cry and Windows and see if either can give me some insight. I'll fill you in on the results of the dead~
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Are insta's on by default? It's not stated whether insta's are on or off in the OP. I'm not good at knowing which of these things are default or standard in a twg since I haven't played too many of them.
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Also, it might be a good idea this coming night phase to discuss what actions the power role should take, if they exist. Especially if we lynch someone this day phase and they flip green.
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Break time in latin. The actions would depend on who gets lynched. I will post a list on actions that probably should be taken when I get home, I have a pretty good idea.
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Insta's are on, apologies for not stating as such!

Insta for this phase is at 4 by the way. Sorry-sorry-sorry!
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Default Re: jTWG LXVIII: I'll Matrix 6 you into bird stuff CHARU [Game Thread]

Can we have no lynch?
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Nice to see that there's more contribution now but I'll have to agree with blind in saying that role hunting is pretty wolfy.

Realize that even if we do lynch a villager, there's a pretty good chance of it not being a role (and if the setup is column B, then we have a higher chance of hitting the wolves than hitting the cop/seer). Wolves win when they're the majority, so in your worst case scenario of there being 3-2 in the next day, there is still the chance of the villagers winning. If a role comes out tomorrow, which I think would be the best chance for villagers to win, that will clear them as green and will leave 2 villagers and 2 wolves to bicker about who to lynch. Kill a wolf (50% chance) during the day, the remaining wolf kills the role, leaving the game at 2-1.

Winning by the skin of our teeth is still winning.

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