TWG: CXXII: Host signups - Page 2

**DarkManticoreX2** · 08-20-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tps222

An argument that I will never concede. Functions that affect the game that heavily should be carried out by a player, aka the psychic.

I know I'm in the minority on this though.

I like no cardflipping games too. Cardflipping is a crutch.

**thesunfan** · 08-20-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendetta21

This is how I think of it:
If you take out cardflips I will as a wolf be able to completely run fucking free over the thread without dying unless there is an excess of seer power. But under normal conditions with regular seer power I will definitely run the thread into the ground and lead the village on a goose chase with one of my wolves counterclaiming seer (or likely claiming seer first to get rid of the problem head on.)

If you take out cardflips as a villager I will literally never ever be convinced someone is village and I will just tunnel people entirely at random all game.

My point is it always favors wolves unless you just throw OP shit that has nothing to do with solving games in, in which case it's battle of the power roles and not TWG.

James May

wild goose chases are exactly why games without cardflipping are fun to me.

**thesunfan** · 08-20-2014, 06:10 PM

Xiz X3

DaBackpack · 08-20-2014, 06:25 PM

idk, no cardflipping is extremely frustrating to me personally, since there's no way for you to validate any claims ever

you have a bunch of people with "strong convictions" just shouting at each other, and there's no way to really GET anywhere with reasoning besides piecing together shitty observations

**DarkManticoreX2** · 08-20-2014, 06:34 PM

Last no cardflipping game we played was Drekk's revenge and humans won that one.

**Charu** · 08-20-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Can somebody please suggest that Anon game with the Sonic fan characters (do not steal) we came up with last game? lol

Oh... my god...

**Vendetta21** · 08-20-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Last no cardflipping game we played was Drekk's revenge and humans won that one.

Seer psychic guardian is not that significant of a change from seer + cardflips in terms of it's ability to incriminate and clear, but it does give wolves a significan advantage if they get lucky hitting a psychic early as well as putting most of the onus of winning the game on 3/13 members of the team instead of the whole team

Seer guardian MW has always been a viable no cardflip game it just takes the fun out of it for most of the town.

The crutch argument is stupid it's not a crutch for play the mechanic makes it a different game. It's a question of how many people get to have information and does that make the game better for more people. Cardflips have never stopped me from winning when I'm woofing.

**Vendetta21** · 08-20-2014, 06:58 PM

Like if the game can be lost to rand.org wolfkill it sucks you have not balanced it

**Vendetta21** · 08-20-2014, 07:01 PM

And if the influence of certain power roles is necessary for human victory game sucks you made a game for that power role to play and not the village

**Vendetta21** · 08-20-2014, 07:10 PM

In short nothing is worse for the TWG community than a veteran player like me openin my PM to see that I'm a vanillager and going "well my impact is not going to matter lame" when vanillager is absolutely 100% my favorite role

James May · 08-20-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thesunfan

wild goose chases are exactly why games without cardflipping are fun to me.

Though I never said if the games would have cardflip or not...

**thesunfan** · 08-20-2014, 07:54 PM

I was talking to V about his opinion I never said anything about your games, I think.

**Vendetta21** · 08-20-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by James May

Though I never said if the games would have cardflip or not...

Unless you are changing the set-up from the wiki both games have cardflips as every MS game does unless otherwise stated.

**thesunfan** · 08-20-2014, 09:25 PM

My personal problem with cardflipping is the dependence of most townies on the cop. I don't especially care about flips when there's not one.

**Vendetta21** · 08-21-2014, 12:44 PM

lets do rarefaction guys

James May · 08-21-2014, 03:28 PM

I'm down to host both tbh. I'm gonna be more active now than I was in the summer huehue.

**Vendetta21** · 08-21-2014, 04:24 PM

okay this is a slow process i think james should just make rarefaction if no one votes anytime soon

James May · 08-21-2014, 06:29 PM

Not complaining. I can do sign-ups tomorrow but won't be able to start until Sunday.

James May · 08-21-2014, 07:45 PM

By the way, if I am hosting, no outside thread comms.

**Gradiant** · 08-21-2014, 07:57 PM

XelNyanners x3

08-20-2014, 06:10 PM	#23
thesunfan Role Tide Join Date: May 2011 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 29 Posts: 10,857	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups Xiz X3

08-20-2014, 06:58 PM	#28
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups Like if the game can be lost to rand.org wolfkill it sucks you have not balanced it __________________

08-20-2014, 07:01 PM	#29
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups And if the influence of certain power roles is necessary for human victory game sucks you made a game for that power role to play and not the village __________________

08-20-2014, 07:10 PM	#30
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups In short nothing is worse for the TWG community than a veteran player like me openin my PM to see that I'm a vanillager and going "well my impact is not going to matter lame" when vanillager is absolutely 100% my favorite role __________________

08-20-2014, 07:54 PM	#32
thesunfan Role Tide Join Date: May 2011 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 29 Posts: 10,857	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups I was talking to V about his opinion I never said anything about your games, I think.

08-20-2014, 09:25 PM	#34
thesunfan Role Tide Join Date: May 2011 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 29 Posts: 10,857	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups My personal problem with cardflipping is the dependence of most townies on the cop. I don't especially care about flips when there's not one.

08-21-2014, 12:44 PM	#35
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups lets do rarefaction guys __________________

08-21-2014, 03:28 PM	#36
James May FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2012 Age: 30 Posts: 3,799	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups I'm down to host both tbh. I'm gonna be more active now than I was in the summer huehue. __________________ bananas

08-21-2014, 04:24 PM	#37
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups okay this is a slow process i think james should just make rarefaction if no one votes anytime soon __________________

08-21-2014, 06:29 PM	#38
James May FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2012 Age: 30 Posts: 3,799	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups Not complaining. I can do sign-ups tomorrow but won't be able to start until Sunday. __________________ bananas

08-21-2014, 07:45 PM	#39
James May FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2012 Age: 30 Posts: 3,799	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups By the way, if I am hosting, no outside thread comms. __________________ bananas

08-21-2014, 07:57 PM	#40
Gradiant FFR's Resident Trashpanda Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Age: 29 Posts: 1,095	Re: TWG: CXXII: Host signups XelNyanners x3

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