[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

that frustration and burnout is something I'm sensing when it comes to discussion on storn, raeko, and Haku

it's not that the discussions aren't valid, but they feel circular and non-productive, which is why I suggest honing in more on how they feel "today" instead of rehashing pointless arguments

for example, force raeko to give current reads and drill her on that. it forces her to generate NEW thought, and if she's a wolf it will expose a gap in her defenses. The Haku discussion about the "claim" feels like the outcome would be decided by salt and frustration instead of actual scumreads

You can't say the discussions are valid but then suggest we don't continue then until they give new reads

The reason we are having these discussions is that they won't give reads/even pretend to be productive

You are in effect telling us to cease pressure and I don't like it

You know DBP, you said Haku and Storn should be looked at/scrutinized today, why don't you place a vote on one of them?