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Old 08-17-2020, 03:01 PM   #68
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Default Re: WAP

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Originally Posted by Walrusizer View Post
That "chosen behavior" is what I am referring to, just like how society "chose" to be racist in the 1800s. If you semantically don't want to consider this to be a 'power structure', fine, I guess, but the effects are the same.
Then define a power structure as any detected source of influence or force imparted throughout a group of beings through which a response is given. So things only have power over you to the extent that you let them have power over you, since you ultimately must make a decision as to how you will respond. Thus if you still let them have power over you, you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

The exception is when physical force is used, which isn't the case in the vast, vast majority of "sexist grievances" uttered today about how people feel that they are expected to act or dress a certain way. Well expectations in those regards apply to everyone. There is nobody who is seen without being predicted, guessed, or stereotyped as being about to act in a certain manner that is specific to perceived characteristics.

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Yeah, people are very largely products of their environments, and I don't mind acknowledging this fact even if it makes you feel bad. Exceptions obviously exist, but they're called exceptions for a reason. I'm not sure if you're trying to hint at genetic factors, but I'll assume not for now because responding will take effort and envioronmental factors obviously very significant regardless.

Truly a brilliant revelation! If slavery is a product of environmental factors, there ought to be no grievances about it since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature!
It's interesting that you just debunked yourself, unwittingly missing the point entirely.

If everything is largely just environmental factors, then one can't even find racist people morally culpable for their actions, as they're just following the herd's traditional practices, which, being the default position, leaves them morally unscathed. "I was just following orders."

In fact, you literally can't even transition from a land that practices chattel slavery to a land devoid of chattel slavery if there are only "environmental factors." You would only have steady-state slavery for eternity. To achieve abolition, some individuals still, at some point, have to consider their own principles, independent of environmental circumstances, to transcend the herd and strive to bring forth the very collective they hoped for.

One's internal brain state is in fact part of every other observer's environment, so one might as well use it.

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Okay, then let's just tell everybody to stop being sexist and that will solve everything. Join me in the good fight, fellow feminist!
Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.
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