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Old 06-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by XelNya View Post
1. The best files in the game are subjective. I'd still hold Twister is the best file in the game, or Teni, but TBH I can't enjoy one of those Cosmo files. They're lost on me no matter how goid they are.
Sure, but it's not purely subjective. There are objective metrics that can be evaluated to determine whether or not a file is "good" on a general scale. Of course people will have preferences, nobody is arguing against that.

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2. Your example is a hypocracy. If it was originally gated behind an "FSO" AAA it should have stayed thrre as others to enjoy it had to unlock it first.
No hypocrisy. The token requirement didn't change, the file was just made public because it was enjoyed by the community so much that we demanded it be public instead of gated behind an FSO AAA. Miku is an odd case since it had already been publicly available for about a week before being tokenized. Surely, if that hadn't been the case, it would still be there today.

My point was simply that the game's best content, current example be damned, should not be walled off to the majority of the player base.

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3. Quality of life changes uprooting old problems is that it is? See the Fiora rework in League as an example. We also removed Legacy files from ranks, should we have left them to torment players because people like Halogen had to do them for better ranks?
I can't relate to your example since I started League in Season 7, but legacy files were NOT removed from ranks.. unless you mean in the sense that Leaderboards only account for top 15 which made grinding legacy files for avrank meaningless. They were simply removed from default view when playing the game so that new players don't run into lower quality content and get deterred from the game.

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4. The difficulty can be reinterpreted as a tool to set goals rather than making it an ability checklist. Sure I CAN go get 250 averages on this song, or I can go AAA this easy file, or I can go AAA and get Heavy. I'd think the change makes it easier yes. But it doesn't need to be that hard just because it's been done by others in past.
You're missing my point. It's not that I'm grasping onto nostalgia and new players should be forced to endure the same hardships as me, it's that there is literally nothing implicitly wrong with the requirement, so it does not need to be changed.

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Also, I understand your sentiment in the end of your post, but I'd argue it should have never been what it is in the first place. But I dunno if 100 was intended to be the max so I dunno.

Btw list format was to make it easier to type thru my phone.
Token Whore was probably intended to be the final skill token, but the community wanted more. I think a case could be made for creating a series of Achievement Tokens based around the concept of total tokens earned, and your any-100 requirement would fit well there. --I just can't justify overwriting the Token Whore requirement when it's still attainable by normal means.
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