[G.S.M]

its true I was basing it off petty stuff as well as stuff a bit more severe than that (which I believe are the most common of suicides anyways) and only had my mind focused on those points not thinking about "heroic suicides" if you can call it that.

in which case my previous points

but clearly only a person with zero emotion and no humanity would not save x amount of innocent babies, but if it were me I would be asking myself questions at first... what if I kill myself and they die anyways? but if I do kill myself maybe he'll let them live? that would be a battle in my head because I do not want to die but I also don't want innocent babies to die, but what if they do anyways? though I guess there are never any guarantees in a situation like this (well maybe not as extreme but yeah)

i don't think giving up hope applies to certain suicides such as that one