[Aoi Asahina]

Originally Posted by Toko Fukawa

I think I am in need of changing of a stance held earlier. Aoi can go.

I do not see why one post has everyones' panties up in a bunch. One post makes you throw a whole player out of the game for you? I find that very weak of a play.

Originally Posted by Toko Fukawa

No it does not help you, because unless everyone tells you, and you know who is in the game, that information is useless.

Toko, I do not know why you are attacking me in such a sour, toxic way. You can easily catch on to people by their playing style, typing style, and knowledge of what they know of outside the game. To belittle my thought process and think you are on some high horse, you will surely not make it far this game.

Originally Posted by Celestia Ludenberg

I was talking about how you structured your post, not what it means.

I've read your initial post as a wolf having doubts about how to do their entrance post.

We're not reading the same thing.

I wouldn't vote you over not knowing what to do about a situation.

I would vote you because I don't understand why you would post this as your first post in terms of intentions.

I see that Celestia. I do not have doubts about my playing ability. I never said I wasn't going to try this game. I never said I was going to throw in the towel. I simply stated that being an anonymous game, it is going to make reading players more difficult. I did not state that it would be impossible or that I would do a poor job at it.

Originally Posted by Celestia Ludenberg

Oh, I forgot a part of the main point.

Wolves know more information than Town hence the suspicion about talking about not knowing something.

I do not understand why you say this Celestia. What do they know more of than we do? I can guess the obvious they know their teammates, but that's not worth mentioning in my opinion. Do you know something we don't?

Originally Posted by Celestia Ludenberg

Aoi responded to the vote on her by dodging the question and pushing back suspicion on me for voting her after Mondo.

This is reasonable in terms of actions, but my intentions are clear and hers are not.

I didn't see her question why I voted her. She just went for the opportunistic option.

The vote was a poke, but the reaction doesn't feel good either for me.

My intentions are very clear. I do not like that you throw shade at my stances simply because I find you the most scumiest right now. I did not dodge any questions, if I missed one, that was by accident.

Originally Posted by Mondo Owada

I see Aoi's #114 as more of an insight into her mindset. Even if it's crap, she still believes what she said, so I'm willing to take off pressure "for now." It's not really tangible to me, but it makes her entry make a little more sense.

Kind of harsh to call my playing "crap" don't you think? If you must belittle of players to get your point across, I do not see you making comprehensible debates, and making a lasting point.

Originally Posted by Byakuya Togami

Aoi's last post looks like posturing to me. I don't like it when people only focus on themselves and their interactions in a game. People who want to hunt wolves look further, at others.

Aoi, I do want more from you.

Hey there Byakuya. During my time in thread, almost the entirety of the comments were about me. I did not focus on myself, I simply stated my feelings towards other players of the current topic. I made statements on who I thought was scummy. Even though it was a player against me, it wasn't because they were against me. It was how they were going about things and posting misconceptions construing my words against me.

Originally Posted by Mondo Owada

I mean, if Aoi did focus on other people you would 75% chance call them out on deflecting.

I did not think of that Mondo, but I believe you might be on to something. The thread was mostly about me, and if I tried to change subject, you are probably right that they would have said I was deflecting. Even though I didn't do that, I was still called out for dodging, which isn't true.

Originally Posted by Junko Enoshima

Based on what I know about this game and its players, I'm going to read Aoi as hard town.

I thank you for your read on me Junko, but a hard town seems a little ridiculous, yeah? I do not like that stance because I feel like you put me into your pocket for uses later in the game. With that though, it doesn't necessarily put you into my scum pile right now.

Originally Posted by Kyoko Kirigiri

Aoi has responded now, but the difficulty of that whole line of thought comes down to the same problem with the above post. People have a tendency to "extreme-ify" their speech anyway, and it's really easy to read sinister intent into adverbs. Is "obviously joking" here proof that Leon is jumpy after his previous post, and felt the need to dismiss it as an obvious joke to protect himself? Probably not. I mean, it's not impossible, but it feels like a huge overreach to me, and probably to everyone else too.

And that's the difficulty with parsing Aoi's original statement.



There were basically two ways it could have been interpreted:

1. I'm new to either the game or community, and thus don't know what I'm doing

2. Everyone is posting under mandatory aliases, so I don't know who anyone is relative to their prior play, and can't evaluate on that.

Both interpretations run into some problems for Aoi. The first reading feels like an inexperienced player justifying/excusing away any future lapses. The second reading (which Aoi basically 'claimed' in their response) feels like filler, since everyone is limited by the anonymity conditions. It's intrinsic to everyone, so saying it has no value or purpose.

But that kind of textual filler happens in these sorts of games, and it's not inherently sinister. With nothing else to go on, and everyone maybe being reticent given the secret accounts, I can understand why people focused on it. If Aoi hadn't gotten around to posting, I'd have said their silence was way more telling than the initial post, since it would seem like they were ducking heat. But that post was addressed. I actually find the followup post a little more troubling, because it basically ends with a hard OMGUS, but the whole debate felt a little contrived.

You are correct that number 2 is how I feel about the game. I do not know what OMGUS means, but I feel like it's not good.

Originally Posted by Toko Fukawa

Your post contains very little thought. Might want to work on that.

You might want to work on not being so rude Toko. Why not give criticism? Why not ask more questions about how they feel? Why not add to the subject instead of tearing them down?