Please do NOT post your Tier points in this thread. Post them in this thread instead.
[Introduction]
Hello FFR Members! Welcome to the improved FFR ranking system for the top active players. We are currently working on the Tier Point system and we appreciate any suggestions and ideas you have. Thanks!
Goal: The goal of the Tier Point system is to make a fair ranking of a player's overall ability to PA different types of files. We will make all of the decisions about how this system will be to reflect this goal. Our secondary goals are to encourage people to play files and improve their skill, and to be able to rank people of all skill levels from PAing 7s and 8s all the way up to SDGing 13s.
The new Tier point system will work like this:
First, each song will start with a 1-point requirement of simply passing the song. This is pretty easy, but we really just want to encourage people to play lots of different charts, even ones they might not be able to get good scores on. Note that the requirements for each given number of points will not be equally hard - this is intentional (see the FAQ).
Then, each song will start with a 2-point requirement of an FC with very low PA - if you don't have enough skill to hit a song well, you shouldn't expect to get many points from it. From there, the requirements will gradually require better and better PA, until the highest requirement for a song is a AAA or blackflag. In general, songs that are harder to PA will have more requirements, and thus will be worth more points. Short and technically simple songs will generally go up to the AAA; long and technically complex songs (lots of color notes and bursts) will only go up to a blackflag.
The distribution of your points will be different here than in the old system. Before, you would expect to have about the same number of points on each song, with your best scores getting more points (e.g. you might have a lot of 2/x scores, and a handful of 3/x). With this system you will have full points on the songs that are easy for you, some of the points on songs around your level, and only 1-2 points on songs that are too hard for you. This will give a better understanding of a player's abilities and skill level.
[FAQ] (Read this list before asking any questions)
Q: What are Tier Points?
A: Tier Points are points that you get for getting good scores on certain songs in FFR. The number of Tier Points you have shows how good of a player you are overall, just like your AAA count and average rank. You can check how many Tier Points you have by going here.
Q: Help! My Tier Points is NOT updating!
A: Try going to your level rank page - that should update it.
Q: Are you going to have multiple lists?
A: No, this tends to just segregate people, and we want to be able to compare everyone together.
Q: Wait, you're not going to keep the difficulty-level based requirements? Wasn't that a good system?
A: There were some good things about it, but it really encouraged mashing. Before the difficulties were all decreased, mash FCing a high FGO could give you as many as 5-6 points, which would give a masher a huge advantage over someone of the same skill who couldn't mash well. We wanted to get rid of this, so in the new system mashing a song can only get you one extra point.
Q: Why do the Tier Point requirements require FCing the song? Shouldn't they just be based on PA?
A: We'd actually love to do this, but combo scoring ruins it. The combo is so much more important than PA right now, so lots of people have mashed scores with good combo but bad PA, and they can't improve them without getting at least that much combo. So going based on the PA in your best score would be really unfair to those people, since they'd be getting fewer points than they deserve.
Q: Are you guys going to add bonuses?
A: We are not sure if we want to add bonuses or not yet, but if we do they will start from a low number of AAAs to give people an incentive to actually play the game. Starting from too high a number makes it seem too hard to get to.
Q: How many songs will be on the final list?
A: Probably about 150-200, but maybe less or more. We're willing to have as many songs as we need for a good TP list.
Q: How often will Tier Points be updated after this release?
A: About once a month.
[Credits]
Rebound (Byron) - Tier Point Leader
qqwref (Michael) - Tier Point Co-Leader and Coder
DossarLX (Roy) - Tier Point Co-Leader and FGO Requirement Leader
Sprite- (Dom) - Awesome person and he loves croûtons!
The FFR Community - We love you!
Comments? Suggestions? Complaints? Post them and I (or someone capable) will respond. Please do not hesitate to give feedback. We would love to hear from you!