[Charu]

Originally Posted by Precarious

Some general observations:

EoD was a disaster that largely came about because I was busy periodically throughout the day and made mistakes trying to catch up and compress too much stuff into the last few minutes. Essentially what happened was that I caught the kitb situation with about 30 seconds to go. I was hesitant to bus AA under the circumstances (the math just doesn't work out), I had been too aggressive on the town MML front previously to vote him without making it obvious what was going on, and I saw a red James higher up on the page, so without time to check I voted James, conceding in effect that I wasn't actually the seer. This was a bad enough situation even before RNG capsized our wolven ship. (But we were taking on water anyway, so...)

In the future, I'll probably just do regular games and only periodically turbos; the timeframe becomes really problematic for me unless I have absolutely nothing else going on, since my playstyle doesn't really lend itself to the one sentence posts that are kind of necessary to keep up with the thread in 12 hour days.

I will say that I don't think the format is entirely balanced; I'm not sure it's been realized just how incredibly gamebreaking the mass seer claiming is. What that allows town to do is guarantee that the seer results are available without actually outing the seer. It's a very powerful role (and thus a very powerful tactic) in such a small game; there's no elbow room, because even green results are especially meaningful when there are so few players. That doesn't even account for how trapped players can get by their false reads. I can't speak to past turbo games here (where it sounds like the seer got killed D/N1 a lot somehow), but eliminating the N0 check would probably help out a lot. That seems better than banning the tactic altogether imo.

Anyways, apologies to AA for how the day ended yesterday. Good game town.

Gonna answer this here because yeah.

Just want to point out to our good pal Pre here that wolves, before this win, have always won this setup. However, this was a first that everyone claimed (or said something of the fact).