[Hateandhatred]

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Charu: For real, bruh

Jailor: ong

Charu: Alright

Jailor: So, there's only one role with a private chat.

Charu: Why'd you jail me?

Jailor: Just curious about role pm

Charu: Wat

Charu: So you jailed me because?

Charu: I'm confused

Jailor: I think there's a chance you're Millium.

Jailor: probably not the case

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Charu: And... what makes you think that? Surely you didn't intend to use your power just to jail that pr

Jailor: I plan to NK you if you don't claim.

Charu: Sigh, is this Haku? Feels like Haku

Charu: Look, I'm Laura

Jailor: You're not Laura because I would be dead if you were.

Charu: I plan to be loud and overbearing this game just so the wolves pick me and die

Charu: That's my plan anyways

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Charu: Well I'm definitely Laura

Jailor: Well, this is going to be a sad game if true.

Charu: Why?

Charu: Hold on, let me re-re-re-REread op

Charu: Because, not gonna lie, I thought jailor would die if they picked me too (i just rolled with whatever this was)

Jailor: You're right, but I'm upset you had to check your role

Jailor: and I'm not sure why a town player would ask me why they got jailed

Jailor: also town can target Laura and rip

Charu: Eliminates anyone who visits at night (except Crow (if he's seducing only) and Rean, as well as Jusis)

Jailor: so, it's not the worse scenario

Charu: Okay, yeah, this is right then

Charu: Well then...

Jailor: the other reason why I would NK is because if you're in a wolf chat, the wolf chat is supposed to be disabled until this is resolved.

Charu: Is that so?

Charu: Well I'm not sure what else to say. Is there anything you'd like to pick apart at?

Jailor: any questions ?

Jailor: I guess I struggle with trusting you when the first thing you ask if why you got jailed

Jailor: is*

Jailor: I don't think town would have to prepare thoughts

Charu: Because I was not in anybodies to vote list

Charu: Lije

Jailor: well, you've seen the vote list

Charu: I was about to go to bed

Charu: Then got notified I was jailed and went "wat"

Charu: And thus the confusion and question upon getting here (by the by, why not just a private discord group, lol)

Charu: Oh... probably identity

Charu: Makes sense

Jailor: probably just because online/offline angleshooting stuff

Jailor: I guess you can go sleep if you want, I'll try to figure something out

Charu: Anyways, my question came from a space of confusion because I was not expecting the jailor to go, well... me.

Charu: I was very much expecting one of the players who got votes

Charu: Or a low poster

Charu: One or the other

Charu: Welp... nothing to do but accept whatever fate you'll give me.

Charu: Maybe brainstorm in here my thoughts tomorrow (irl tomorrow)

Jailor: well, there's a lot of ?? players in this game

Jailor: I'll give you that

Charu: Ugh, tell me about it. The amount of inactives and new players are making me kind of naturally go towards the vets being the wolves

Jailor: Just for fun, who do you think is Millium ?

Jailor: assuming they know the entire game

Charu: Haku

Charu: But I think you're Haku

Charu: So...

Charu: Guess not anymore

Charu: Okies, I stayed up way longer than I wanted.

Charu: Talk to you (or just random thoughts) later!

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Charu: Weh

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Charu: Totally unrelated to this game, but someone recolored an awesome vrchat model for me and I just spent a good chunk of my afternoon admiring it

Charu: Thx 4 reading

Charu: Now time to either nap or continue my xenoblade 1 playthrough

Charu: Leading towards napping

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Jailor: I'll be around if Charu comes back

Jailor: I'll just say that this feel a bit like a wasted opportunity in a T/T scenario

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Charu: *Smokes a carrot and blows the hot steamy goodness in the air*

Charu: Still can't believe you jailed me

Charu: If you're Haku, then I *really* don't get it

Charu: Anywaaaaays, I was told by a higher power you wanted to chat?

Jailor: yeah I need to figure out if you're alive next phase

Jailor: because jailing by itself doesn't do much

Charu: Well, unless the wolves rb me, I'm fine

Charu: Or you decide to off me

Jailor: if town check you in the night, they will most likely die

Charu: Either or

Jailor: so, you're a weird slot even for town wincon

Charu: I mean... I can say I wanna put my sword away

Jailor: but at same time, town doesn't have a ton of room for mislynches

Charu: But I rather keep it out for the beginning phases

Jailor: thoughts about the game ?

Jailor: I guess it's mostly low activity players and not so much going on

Charu: The only real significant discussion was about the lynching delimma

Charu: With that in mind, I find all players who know how to play to be suspect

Charu: Because seriously, you don't just chance a lynch when there's a role out there that kills the game

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Charu: Of course, the person could always fake claim, but I feel that's worst case scenario

Jailor: sorry, internet died for a sec

Charu: No probs

Charu: So yeah, that's where I'm at

Jailor: I mean, if you assume the jailor won't play properly, it's not completely out of this world

Charu: Depending on what we get next phase, I'd like to keep up the lynching to you, to be honest

Jailor: I hate this because I thought it would be easy to guess your alignment

Jailor: 'cause I didn't properly ask the right question and you ended up being the one asking questions

Charu: Well, unfortunately for you, you jailed a bird who knows how to play

Charu: But trust or not, I'm town and I'm Laura

Charu: If you wish to take me out, then nothing I can do

Charu: Honestly, you probably should've picked a new player for jailing

Jailor: atm you're getting taken out if I can't change my mind

Jailor: but I'm definitely not happy about it

Jailor: because I know you're a valuable player and I know Laura could be a role that turn the game around

Charu: Well then... don't off me?

Charu: I get it the problem though

Charu: You want us to have solid info

Charu: And you can't just tell the thread

Jailor: I think I would have kept you alive if you were nearly any other role

Jailor: I mean, if you rip as Laura, that clearly doesn't solve much either

Jailor: and might be even more difficult to explain

Charu: ?

Charu: Why?

Charu: If I was any other role?

Jailor: more like I doubt town will guess you were the jailor's target without claiming

Jailor: I mean, let's say idk you were machias and you wanted to target X player during the night

Jailor: I feel like it's easier to work my mind around your game

Charu: Well I'm not 100% sure who I'm talking to so I think trying to do that wouldn't work anyways

Jailor: what would that change 6

Jailor: ?

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Charu: Haha, loser, get timed out

Jailor: I think only scum gain from knowing who's jailor

Charu: Nothing, really. It wouldn't change a thing

Charu: Well, Jailor, I don't want to die because I do think my role right now is an asset to the town team

Charu: I'm trying to be loud and upfront this game so the wolves do stuff to me

Charu: Just not get rb'd, dohoho

Jailor: I can see Elliot being like "oh, I like this player, I'm going to protect them tonight" and they're gone

Charu: Speaking of, wonder if my death here still triggers anyone else's death if they check me

Charu: Spicy~

Jailor: you can technically end the game by yourself

Charu: Well I'm hoping Elliot goes to you

Charu: Or... the person I think is you (Haku)

Charu: Because Hake definitely gave off super pr vibes from their posts about Millium

Jailor: So, there's Machias that a cop who can die to you

Jailor: Gaius vigi also die to you

Jailor: I live, but basically a waste

Charu: Machias SHOULD be checking low posters and inactives

Jailor: Elliot die

Jailor: yeah you're a public danger

Jailor: 3 town can flip from targeting you

Jailor: in the same night

Charu: Vigi SHOULDNT shoot tonight

Charu: You got to be kidding me

Jailor: you're right

Jailor: but is it going to happen ?

Jailor: I wonder if you both flip if Gaius target Laura

Charu: I could just... not have my sword out if you're THAT concerned about ot

Charu: The likelihood of three roles checking me is so low

Charu: Lower than lynching Millium

Jailor: oh I don't expect it to happen

Jailor: I expect scum team to stack all their actions on one player at a time

Jailor: because of roleblock

Jailor: which would render your role sort of useless to them

Jailor: but dangerous for town

Jailor: so, I do think not using it is better

Jailor: but if you were alive late game and crow is out

Jailor: then yes

Charu: I think the first night phase will be the only time they stack since afterwards shenanigans from the night will reveal to them more

Charu: Hmmmm...

Charu: Let me review the op again (for lije... the 50th time)

Charu: Okay, so

Charu: They'll definitely stack roadblock and that delayed cardflip

Charu: Emma can't do anything n1

Charu: And no reason to strong-arm since they only have 1

Charu: ...roleblock*

Jailor: Fie will probably night kill with a roleblock

Jailor: which means no card flip info

Charu: Yeah

Charu: Which definitely isn't seful.

Charu: BUT

Jailor: I mean, someone will not post during the entire phase

Charu: Ot does tell town that kill was done by the wolves at least

Charu: I think

Jailor: it will hopefully become obvious at some point

Jailor: I'm saying that because inactivity can hide that somehow

Jailor: oh it would make sense if it's just no knowing the role

Jailor: not*

Charu: The more I think about this, wow

Charu: I should sheath my sword then n1

Charu: Damn, let me change my night action.

Jailor: I wonder if Millium is immune to Emma

Jailor: or if they can just win instantly with the right check

Charu: Changed it, no longer have it out

Charu: Even if you off me, think we should be good

Jailor: I'm going to hope Rean is town and keep you alive

Charu: And, Jailor

Charu: Next person you speak to, please hide your Haku-ness

Charu: Unless you're not Haku

Jailor: nah I'm Haku

Jailor: I hate being jailor

Charu: In which case your vibes are on point and awesome impersonation

Jailor: well, the private chat at least

Jailor: I guess I want to address the T-Force/MML you/me dichotomy or whatever

Jailor: about voting vs no lynch

Jailor: well, I'm probably going to be in dead chat so, 'later

Jailor: well, that chat died quickly

Jailor: maybe you shouldn't live after all

Charu: I'm still here, whoa

Jailor: not a fan of the wine and "you decide my fate"

Charu: Sorry, I got distracted for a sec

Charu: What about the... what now?

Jailor: like I'm trying to ignore you're replacing, but it's tricky

Charu: MML/T-Force?

Charu: OH

Jailor: well, they spent the end of the phase advocating for voting someone over no lynch etc.

Charu: I literally skimmed through Zenith's post and forgot what they were

Jailor: Zenith simply wasn't here

Jailor: 0 post

Charu: Ah yes

Charu: Well I think MML just didn't want a case of no info

Jailor: if I wanted to be a meanie, I'd argue he does that when he roll scum, but that's not a very cool take

Charu: So I'm not to overly concerned with his opinion

Jailor: I'd rather lose than get it right because of that

Charu: I'm more worried about T-Force

Jailor: well T-Force make sense if Jailor was a new player or afk

Jailor: you can't rely on 1 person for the entire game

Charu: T-Force WAS VERY adamant about wanting to lynch despite the gamble in play

Jailor: no lynch is only good for delaying the game a bit

Jailor: which town badly need

Jailor: I do think insta should happen either next phase or the one after

Jailor: well, odd amount of players imply a 2nd no lynch could work

Jailor: but no more

Charu: Depending what results we get from the SoD from our host, yeah

Charu: I still believe the "lynch" target should be handled by you

Charu: The whole get to a consensus and then let the jailor do the deed

Jailor: well, I'm technically a cop with 3 checks if I find Millium

Jailor: but I'm afraid Millium is one of the low posters

Charu: Wouldn't surprise me

Charu: They wouldn't know what to do since the game info is handed to them

Jailor: one thing that made me think you're scum is that your reads followed mine

Jailor: and it's usually easy cover

Jailor: and you're not making it easy for me to connect the dots on your intentions

Charu: W a t

Jailor: well, for alignment

Charu: My intention was to tell everyone lynching first phase was actually a viable strategy this time around

Charu: Like

Charu: It takes like 30 seconds to skim op

Charu: And understand there's roles that are definitely not standard TWG roles

Jailor: I do still think not lynching is better because 1/10 chance Millium

Jailor: and even if it's not much, there's many ways for Millium to flip without scum even doing anything

Charu: Weren't you reading me town earlier in the phase?

Jailor: would be funny if the entire scum team is Arp/Souris/ToonE

Jailor: all the players that voted no lynch

Charu: Or was that a lie?

Jailor: I can't make up my mind

Jailor: I'll just say that you're living atm

Charu: Because I placed you either top town or a wolf who knew what they were doing

Jailor: yeah but you know very well that it's not alignment indicative for yourself

Charu: I'd be passed if the wolf team were all newbies

Jailor: I would happily say that as a wolf

Charu: Pissed*

Jailor: if I was wolfing, this game would be funnier tbh

Jailor: this feel like slank city

Jailor: with you/me/T-Force/MML in a tunnel

Jailor: wouldn't be surprised if we were all town

Charu: *Shruuuuug*

Jailor: something something path of least resistance

Charu: I'm hoping next phase will be a lot more revealing

Jailor: in b4 Gaius shoots Millium and everyone is like "oh"

Charu: Also, I really don't think you'll be dead

Jailor: well, you said I might be Millium

Charu: Right

Charu: So the doctor might think too

Jailor: https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz... would have been funny if you

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Charu: I actually made that post deliverately

Charu: Deliberately*

Jailor: ah yes, the classic lure the jailor plan

Charu: Nooooo

Charu: To lure the wolves to me

Jailor: I'm actually considering flipping you so town have something to talk about due to the delayed flip oof

Jailor: 'cause town is just super lost right now

Jailor: and I think it may help them build a common ground

Charu: I mean... it might just mean town will go "Why did our jailor do that?" Honestly

Charu: Because besides ... well you in this private chat, no one batted an eye at me

Jailor: ah seriously, scum chat is open at all time

Jailor: god damn it op

Charu: Wait, really?

Jailor: [19-08-23 11:29 AM] I've never rolled wolf as a player so I had no idea this was a thing, but it was brought to my attention that scum-aligned players aren't always supposed to use scum chat during day phases, at least not unless specified. I ultimately decided to allow them to use it, and I'm letting you all know of the fact that from now on, their chat will be active at all time.

Charu: Jailing is probably the exception

Charu: Can't very well talk to your team if you're jailed, right?

Jailor: I mean, if it's not and you wanted to find out im haku then technically scum team know im jailor 100%

Jailor: but I wasn't aware of that

Charu: Wha...?

Charu: I've read your sentence 6 times and it went over my head

Jailor: im wrong apparently nvm

Jailor: [20-08-23 9:44 PM] Players may insta "no lynch" while the jailor is alive.

Jailor: imagine the phase starts

Jailor: and people literally insta

Jailor: lol

Charu: That'd be very silly

Jailor: I mean, it's a game of hiding Millium

Jailor: if PRs have nothing

Jailor: it's not completely unthinkable

Charu: So a thought just came to mind

Charu: What I mentioned I got jailed?

Charu: No reason to hide that fact from town, is there?

Jailor: what do you gain from it ?

Jailor: if I confirm I jailed you, it bad for PoE I think

Charu: Notoriety, and you don't have to claim

Jailor: if you were Millium I would tell the thread who the wolves are

Jailor: since I won't, you kinda get out of the picture

Charu: Plus it gives town a topic to discuss

Jailor: if I had your role I wouldn't sheath and just hope Machias solve or something

Charu: Nag, I've mulled over it and think sheathing is good

Charu: For this night at least

Charu: Nah*

Jailor: as long as crow is alive it's best imo

Jailor: can block strongman, but not rb

Charu: Hmm...

Charu: I wonder if I'm automatically sheathed since I'm jailed...

Jailor: you could be in a final 3, lose it and if the last wolf pick you for NK you're just like "no you"

Jailor: that's wrong, but something along those lines

Jailor: I think I'm blocking others from your night action

Jailor: trying to remember if jailing counters roleblock if you're the target

Charu: Huh, that makes sense I guess

Jailor: I think nothing goes in and nothing goes out

Charu: Well if that's the case, I suppose my action does nothing

Charu: So I'm just sheathed

Jailor: Emma is the only one that can use an action while jailed

Jailor: according to OP

Jailor: so, if you're town and scum target you tonight because you're unlikely to be jailed etc. well, too bad for them

Jailor: so, thinking that way, it would be logical for me to jail who I think scum will try to NK

Jailor: double rewards kinda

Jailor: I doubt scum will NK inactives

Charu: Yeah, scum love leaving inactives alive

Jailor: I'm a good NK I think

Jailor: Elliot protecting me would be terrible here

Jailor: 'cause we would both rip

Jailor: if strongman

Jailor: ah jailer doesn't block strongman

Jailor: but it might block roleblock (?)

Jailor: but you can block strongman

Jailor: that's a funny one to think about

Jailor: if you're targeted

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Charu: I highly doubt wolves will use their strongarm n1

Jailor: I'm trying to think what you gain if you tell others you were jailed in case I flip

Jailor: not worth it I guess

Charu: It'll definitely be a topic that gets brought up, I think

Charu: That's info for town

Charu: Albeit not really much, but there you have it

Jailor: I think you could mention, but only if I flip next phase

Jailor: and not mention it if I'm alive next phase

Charu: Listen, I really don't think you'll die

Charu: I believe the doctor would've chosen you

Jailor: I actually think the doctor should do nothing

Charu: ...Assuming doctor isn't a newbie

Charu: Bruh

Jailor: unless doctor has like 5 posts

Charu: That strong-arm isn't gonna be used this night

Charu: Stop it

Jailor: well, phase starts in 1 hour

Jailor: glgl

Jailor: I want to go do a couple of other things

Charu: Yeah, see ya on the otherside

Charu: I'm playing me some xenoblade 1 on the side

Jailor: kinda curious if you've looked into cold steel series

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Sunfan: stop talking in this chat

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