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Originally Posted by ToonE156

TBF people in D5 or D4 are much better than most average people at the game. So to an outsider a D5 player is most definitely a "master". Im just thinking with the same mindset of an outsider who's only seen that AGDQ Etienne Stepmania Showcase, I'm not 100% defending it

Yes but going along with their idea, if an outsider sees D5 as a "master", shouldn't that still represent something quite close to "perfection"? Just thinking out loud. I'm not against a complete rework of the divisions/milestones names if they can better represent the progression. As for the "cringe" aspect, I think there's a fine line where we can make it not too cringe but still not unnecessarily get rid of FFR's history by using entirely different namings for every division for example.