Round Seems townie on the surface: prods, tries to solve (trying to figure out who haku's partners could be was a unique line of thought), followed up when xiz didn't respond to a post, tries to get momentum going (freezin vote)...but absolutely none of this is anything that a wolf wouldn't be capable of doing, and I know round is a capable wolf. As far as this phase is concerned, I'm not able to read him one way or the other. Also, if I get killed and can't argue this later in the game when it's relevant then please heed my advice: if it gets towards the end and he's still around and you're looking at the other players and struggling to find anything wolfy, it's probably him. Remember, townies can play anti-town, and wolves can play pro-town.
raeko Like round, raeko seems townie but also hasn't done anything that a wolf wouldn't be capable of doing. I do like how she's handled the pressure on her regarding her play for the first phase, though: she's not being flippant and trying to deflect, and she's not grovelling and begging for forgiveness either. She's acknowledging it, owning it, and moving on from it. The recent reads post is a point in her favor too since we've been in the dark on where she's at prior to now. Gun to my gut I'd say she's town, but I want to wait and see how she plays this EoD first.
storn I still think the momentum on him last phase stank. Too easy, too convenient. Xiz's point about wolf storn chiming in is a big factor too. Also, I'm not sure if a wolf would show up, make a case on one player, then disappear like he essentially did for first freezin then angel. A wolf would be more likely to pepper in at least a few other observations about other players to keep up appearances. Other people are reading him as a wolf who's failing to look townie, but I read it as a townie who doesn't care about impression management.
lar Still think he's town for reasons I've stated already (most important of which being xiz and others saying he's never been able to play the way he's playing here as scum) and that isn't changing, no matter how much I disagree with his haku/fg and storn reads.
dap Pretty much the same read as round and raeko: townie enough on the surface, but nothing he couldn't do as a wolf. I know dap is a good wolf because I've lost to him before. I've been trying to think of how to get a solid read on him when I'm as paranoid as I am and I think it's going to come down to factors totally outside of him: how others read him, who sheeps him, who's eager to interact and who's more likely to ignore, etc etc. Since I doubt he'll be a major point of contention this phase I'd rather wait until there's two phases (and especially two EoDs if his style of play stays the same) of info to go off of.
fg I've already shared my thoughts about haku and now fg a bit so I won't restate them, but ultimately I find it way way easier to believe in a world where haku did what he did as a townie than a wolf. Haku's response/confession to me came across very genuine in tone as well.
freezin There's a few suspicious things about Freezin. One, I don't feel like there's a cohesive thought process going on. Someone like Lar, the development of his thoughts makes sense. I can sense the progression, and what he deems important enough to post about and ask about follows a trajectory. Freezin more so chimes in at random (except for the push on angel...I'll admit that comes across as natural). There's also deflection happening:
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Originally Posted by FreezinIce
Thats all i felt like replying too.
How about u read all my posts and see the progression instead of whatever fits the story u trying to craft in your head
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If this was in response to someone they're null or scumreading that would make some more sense, but this was to Lar, who Freezin has a town read on. It seems unnatural. Finally, if I'm right about shadow/duk then I can see a partnership between them and Freezin:
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Originally Posted by FreezinIce
shadow the effort is there but it is very uhhh one dimensional. hes had a few good points but most of his stuff is "what would be the most basic level one reaction to X point?" Or at least thats what ive noticed. making this post is making me walk back calling him a wolf straight up but maybe this is just how he rolls and covers himself as a wolf. another person i dont think ive ever played with so u know what that means: low confidence read (tho i think my early points on him are valid im not sure the jump to wolf suspect is necessarily there)
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With the heat turning up on shadow, Freezin walks back the earlier scumread so as to avoid being forced into bussing their partner later in the phase.
gradiant Everyone else said gradiant seems town, gradiant is playing his normal game, so I decided to stop being hardheaded and listen to them. I made a good-faith effort to work it out and try to get an explanation and one never came. And now, try as I might, I can't see the towniness! Playing UTR, chimes in at random, and the tunnelling on raeko this phase strikes me the same as his tunnelling on storn last phase: easy and opportunistic. Raeko dropped a full reads list and gradiant is still honing in on the EoD stuff about her from last phase. Looking through his reads list, a good number of his thoughts haven't changed either. Like, he brought up points against me last phase, I responded to them, he never replied to me, and then in his reads list he reiterates the exact same points as before. I'd think that if he cared about solving the game then he'd at least take the new information I provided into consideration, even if just to say it's bullshit.
angel Of all my reads, this is probably the most gut-centric. She's in the same camp as round, raeko, and dap: nothing scummy, but nothing townie that can't be faked. However, having been on FFR for quite a while, what I know of angel is that when she's frustrated and believes in her point of view she goes off. Responding to storn's push with a big long point-by-point refutation is pretty in-character from what I remember. Also, pretend you're a murder suspect and the police ask you where you were the day of the murder. If you're guilty, are you really going to say, Well, I did this then this and oh this too and then this this this, when that just introduces more and more opportunities for them to poke holes in your lies? The much better play is to say, I was at home or I don't know. An innocent person is going to be more comfortable going into detail since they're telling the truth. However, I put her in leaning town instead of full town because, again, I'm sure she's capable of faking those longposts, but intuition tells me they're legit.
duk Going to quote my previous accusation:
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Originally Posted by fatfuck42
Shadow, I hope you're feeling better today. I'm sorry to do this to you when you're not feeling well but I'm pretty sure you're a wolf.
You've been all over the place, asking this and that and bringing up stuff at random. Like I said before, that's fine in early phases or when there's not a lot going on, but this shit right here is like...well, it's basically a slip in my eyes:
You posted this at 11:00. Literally the end of the phase. There was all sorts of shit going on with xiz and this is where your attention is focused? And you really ask me that at what is literally the very last minute? I don't think you're interested in the answer at all. You're asking questions for the sake of asking questions. You said this earlier:
That's your strategy as a wolf, isn't it? That's how you're trying to look townie. Asking me which reads I would hold onto at not only 11:00 but in the midst of all the xiz stuff is just so disingenuous and fake.
shadow
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I just really can't see Shadow as town. Too many pointless questions and a general lack of direction. I don't think there's much duk can do to change my mind.
tl;dr:
Town: storn, lar, fg
Leaning town: angel
Null: round, raeko, dap
Leaning wolf: freezin, gradiant
Wolf: Duk