1) roundbox: Doesn't seem the most involved on first glance but there's responses here that seem alright along with new thoughts based on some of the other interactions. One thing throwing me off though is this:
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Originally Posted by roundbox
agree on the raeko, same thoughts as earlier about bolthmann
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This was in response to freezin being up mellon/bolt interaction not being T/T but T/W, with T being more sided towards mellon. Just before haku said something about mellon/bolt being W/W and roundbox disagreed. Roundbox later on in that quote thread brings up liking some of bolt's posts, them still needing pressure but not needing be pushed into wolf territory. So I'm confused on the actual stance here. There seems to be slight defense of bolt earlier regarding freezin's push, but then seemingly agreeing with T/W perspective, but then not really because bolt shouldn't be pushed into wolf territory.
null until the mellon/bolt shit's looked into
2) mellon_collie: Already said thoughts earlier. They were responded to but I'm still not sure I believe the whole thing. Before she was distracted there was time to have legit reads made so even in a rush it's possible to switch off a vote that was fully admitted to be a joke onto somebody you actually think is scummy. Even though missed posts might've changed that original read it'd still be more genuine to have that original thought along with the oops not enough time factor rather than a safe staying on a joke.
Scum lean
3) storn42: Today's actions haven't really done much to change my mind here from last phase. Pretending to not understand haku's actions (the whole 'well there was talk about claiming but he didn't actually do it') seems fake to me.
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Originally Posted by storn42
i'm sure enough that im town, and that xiz was town and we were the top 2 wagons. The only other major wagon with votes looking at eod was RB. In general wolves dont want to try and make last minute vote changes as it looks fishy, especially when they KNOW they're lynching a town. The major ??? is whether or not RB is town, and if it would have had any effect on the wagon if he was a wolf. based on how RB was there to self pres if a wagon gained traction on him and he wasn't on either of the 2 big wagons i think we can say him being a wolf did not play into the situation.
The reason DBP does not get this "pass" is that he started the wagon, and wasn't really on anybody before hand. i'm not saying its he's not town, but i dont think he's clearable based on this line of thought.
of course this all relies on you to believe me that im town, which doesn't seem to be the popular opinion. oh and if RB was a wolf i feel that its more likely that the wolves were on me than on Xiz.
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That post was used as reasoning to explain his stating that nobody on the xiz wagon should be lynched today, but I'm not really following the logic regarding dbp. Just because he had the first vote here doesn't mean he was the one that started anything, there was suspicion on xiz long before that vote was made. Doesn't explain why it's more likely the wolves were on him than on xiz.
scum lean
4) MixMasterLar: Thoughts here already known and not much has changed this phase aside from being a bit more abrasive? Which I can get because of mellon's actions eod. Was fishiness regarding shadow during eod but was explained alright due to it revolving around potential pr's.
town lean
5)
Bolth mannn Killed n1
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Xiz Lynched d0
7) DaBackPack: Was first vote on xiz and was strongly trying to persuade people to move onto him, but the reasoning there felt genuine and not forced. Wasn't solely focused on xiz either during eod so didn't feel much like pushing an agenda. Has been levelheaded throughout regarding haku and mml pushing on haku/storn.
town lean
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Hakulyte Funnygurl555: Thoughts on haku's slot are obvious by now, but with the addition of not liking funny writing off shadow's slot because of an apparent dumbtell. I think that's stupid. Also hindsight about haku's tone. It's one thing to bring it up, it's another to do so as a kind of defense when you're replacing into his slot.
scum lean
9) FreezinIce: I can't read you. Usually see something that looks like a slip when I play with you and that usually leads to tunnelling and it usually ends up me being wrong. There's been a lot of back and forth between them and psycho which could be wolf distancing, others could apparently think so too because I'm seeing this pairing a bit when possible wolf teams are brought up, but I think if it was really distancing there, there'd still be more instigating with other players rather than it mainly being between the two of them.
Null
10) Gradiant
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SubaruPoptart psychoangel691: Hard to get a read on you without it currently tying to freezin due to you two being so hard on the back and forth between eachother. Only difference between you two really would be deciding if wolf freezin would push on bolt early game. Interested in seeing interaction with roundbox when he comes in since you said that was going to be a major point this phase because of a scum read last eod but it's been mainly about freezin so far.
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j-rodd123 Shadow_God_10 Duk3star: The slight town lean I gave him for the little questions was probably given too easily. There were other little prods that were similar like questioning plop about crumbling reads closer to eod, but then others that seemed really out of place like questioning me about my re-quoting of that prod to reinforce a thought that dbp had said. Ones like that do not seem to be made to help with solving or getting new information, just looking active.
Null but could vote here.
13) fatfuck42: Pretty much same thoughts as last phase. I agreed with dbp about point regarding plop's on the fence-ness with xiz, and I forgot what other player said so but their main reads list was very skewed in terms of what was considered utr and where that ended up making a player placed on the list. Shift around concerning me and storn didn't feel organic, the then staying on me with not much basis based on the reads list and asking others about it looked like you seeing if anybody else was gonna bite and when they didn't you dropped it, and any shifts later on closer to eod didn't seem to have much backing up or reasoning, just 'yeah I changed my mind'. The gut vote onto freezin in eod was odd as well. If it was a regular vote that could've had more thought put into it or evolved into something else it'd be all fine, but the vote here was outside of the apparent wagons. That'd make sense if the two candidates were people he was saying were for sure town but he was on the fence about xiz. There was also not much of an attempt to get people off of the two candidates or onto somebody else so this gut vote looks more like a safety so he doesn't look bad being on a town wagon.
scum lean