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Old 01-19-2018, 04:45 AM   #259
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Default Re: TWG CLXXV: Survivor Newfoundland - GAME THREAD

Hi, I am going to be busy most of the evening (seeing a magician). These are my leans so far.

[Trusting]
15. Hakulyte- The way Haku is engaging with the game seems very similar to our previous OOTC game. The formatting of the post that DBP was making the Louvre joke about, for some reason strikes me as somebody actually thinking about the game. I trust others to read Haku well, as well.

4. Wayward Vagabond - He seems brazen, inquisitive and fun. I for some reason think him asking for space from the off-topic conversations, in combination with him being proactive within those conversations in general, seems more likely to come from a town.

8. j-rodd123 - He seems very bold and like he is trying to figure things out in the main thread, and from what Knights has said about him preferring to play as a town, and from what ShadoWolfe said to me about j-rodd talking to ShadoWolfe exactly like when they were masons, I feel pretty good with him at the moment except for him not remembering where he learned about there being 4 mafia.

2. Celirra - Very tryhard and strategic. Their effort to reach out to me about one of their leans and their assessment of other players in terms of trust versus leans seems genuine to me.

[lesser trust]


7. reuben_tate - He pointed out that he has had to play as a mafia many times in a row and that he finds it stressful. So I am expecting to see a strong difference from the last game with him, over the course of this one. I feel that he is somewhat more open, relaxed and investigative, but I am not fully convinced on it. His wording in the comments "[23:17] reuben_tate: I've rolled wolf way too many times in a row (was wolf last game and several games before that).
It's too stressful.[23:17] reuben_tate: It sounds boring, but I'd prefer to just be vanilla town lmfao" does not really sound like someone who is town now and is relieved about it, is probably the main hesistance I have with him.

10. Tokzic - This is mainly because of the dumbtell in the tribe chat about thinking there are 3 mafias.

9. ShadoWolfe - I was unsure whether to put him in the Not Trusting category or this one. I have heard he can be scary as a mafia, but I can say that when I discussed leans with him, it seemed pretty similar to my experience with working with him when he replaced into our last OOTC game (as town). So it is actually more that I feel like talking with him makes me get better leans, than that he has actually said anything that I think he could not come up with as a mafia. But if nothing substantial changes I would prefer not to vote him for Day 1, because it makes me saner, to talk with him. He mentioned wanting people to keep accountable for votes and went on to explain that part of his motivation for this is because that he thinks anybody can get lynched Today, even people who wouldn't normally (himself, Sun fan, Vendetta, Charu, apparently) basically because he suspects people fear pushing on stronger players than them will get them hanged, normally. Since he considers himself in that category, it is partly a self-preservation tactic, to try to get people to be honest about votes I think. (Though it did not seem like that was the only reason for this strategy.) But I wouldn't be surprised if he is mafia, if it was with people he thinks are normally hard to lynch on D1.

[I was sussing but not so much now? Please help]

14. flashflash account - In the tribe chat, flash flash has been pretty active, and was analysing the Role PMs in the opening posts and thinking about how the format may impact whether mafias join the tribe chat, which was creative. I did sus him for this:

[05:06] flashflash account: so like the goal of the game is to be the last man standing right
[05:06] flashflash account: or is it to preserve the integrity of the game by getting rid of the saboteurs
[05:06] flashflash account: or maybe both?'

Because I think that if the first thing somebody is reading in the game is the Superfan message, it should not be ambiguous that the goal is taking out the saboteurs.

He claims to be very bad as a mafia, which I would like others to corroborate if possible, because if that is the case he is probably a town for having more than 300 messages in the main discord already and presenting so many ideas, while stating that he has a tendency to make slips, as a mafia.

11. theknightsofneeee - His messages in this main thread strike me as oddly hesitant at times, and I am trying to figure out if it is genuine. I am disappointed that he did not respond to my question for him earlier. But I am also wondering if the fact that knights would have joined the tribe discord sooner, if he was a mafia, because I think it would have been more obvious to him that things were actually happening on discord sooner, if he was talking to other mafias. When I played on Mafia Universe, they had a discord chat, so I cannot really think of a reason he would not join that and plan with them. I get the sense from the tribe chat versus the main chat, that he is trying to be cagey with 1 or 2 of his reads in the main thread. I think it could be genuine, but considering he is writing to 7 other people who just don't happen to be those specific people, obviously those more indepth leans could easily get back to the people he is not wanting to know about. And so I am wondering if that is not something he was worried about because he already knows who is mafia.

[Not trusting]

1. Cold Kitten - Seems very nihilistic regarding Charu, and so I do not understand why they spent so much time talking about somebody they seem to think is impossible to figure out, if they have limited time for this.

5. Vendetta21 - I do not remember any of his messages.

6. Soundwave- He has a decent amount of messages in the tribe chat but it does not leave much impression on me.

12. Charu - Seems less jovial and invested than usual, but owns up to it. I am still trying to decide if this is a good thing or not, because I get the impression he feels responsibility to his team as a mafia to infiltrate OOC circles and do well, or if this is a bad thing, because it is harder to be mafia in OOC and he may be bummed about it. The most notable thing from him so far I think, is that he seemed intense about not wanting Toxzic to share the tribe name. I am curious if anybody with more experience with Charu thinks this is meaningful.

[20:29] Charu: Not quite a fan of Toxic saying what are tribe name is to be honest
[20:29] flashflash account: what does that sentence mean
[20:29] Charu: @Tokzic better hope this tribe stuff doesn't bite us in the ass
[20:29] Tokzic: who's toxic
[20:29] Tokzic: charu wat why
[20:29] flashflash account: toxic is tm6
[20:30] Tokzic: "Tribes are meant to encourage out of thread discussion and tie in the theme of the game. If you wish to ignore the tribe aspect and only interact one-on-one and in the thread until the main discord opens, that is fine."
[20:30] Tokzic: wait that's not the part i meant to quote
[20:30] Charu: Because you don't know if it actually will be used for something.
[20:30] wv: I threw tokzic under the bus
[20:30] Charu: It looks like flavor
[20:30] wv: Check mate
[20:30] Charu: But it could be something else
[20:30] Charu: Do you know for sure?
[20:30] Tokzic: "The starting tribe you are on is not public information, but has no disadvantage if other people know what tribe you’re on."
[20:30] flashflash account: yeah that line confused me
[20:31] flashflash account: because obviously now we know what tribe everyone is on
[20:31] flashflash account: either ours or theirs
[20:31] Tokzic: also the other tribe name is incredibly obvious


13. DaBackpack - I had a good feeling about his first shitposting but have been told that is a bad way to get a read on him. Just because I have more hope that I and others would be able to get a good lean on him in later days I would probably be less interested in voting for him on Day 1 compared to others.

16. thesunfan - He seems fairly lazy this game. I am curious about his strategy for outside contact, from some rumors.
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