[Wineandbread]

Some catchup comments:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

If you think haku is a wolf atm your out of your god damn mind

In willing to give haku the benefit of the doubt for one phase because his thinking aligns with mine enough that I feel like there's something there.

I'd rather not have the person be sunfan though because it of all the people you suspect I feel like he's the we weakest link. Him going to l-1 makes me think the wolves were not on the wagon, and that he isn't a wolf himself or they would've hammered.

What do you think about that?

Do you mean the weakest link of the wolves? I'm not sure about your language here.

Originally Posted by YoshL

popping in to say 2 things

raeko still top lynch because she hasn't done anything to alleviate any concerns earlier

talking about replacing out is quite literally the worst thing you can ever do imo.

I agree that the time of this post, she didn't really do anything to help herself (st. patrick's day stuff). But I don't like that he isn't adding anything else. You'd lynch rb potentially based on what you were saying with freezin's scenario right? What about your 3rd lean?

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I will help you tomorrow when I'm not drunk

HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY TO ALL INCLUDING WOLVES EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE MEANIES YOU STILL DESERVE TO GET DRUNK

Controversial opinion: st. patrick's day sux (o:
One time in middle school I got pinched so hard I was bleeding, so maybe I have ptsd

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

k im going to try to lead today since wineandbread whos consensus townread is having personal issues (i think?) that are affecting his investment in the game and i would like clear directions for the lynch to go

FIRST OF ALL IF YOU HAVNT ALREADY ANSWERED THIS POST PLEASE DO SO

Heres the results so faR:

Roundbox: Yoshl > Charu
Hakulyte: Lito = Charu
Charu: Roundbox > Yoshl
Litodude: Roundbox > Yoshl
Sunfan: Lito = Yoshl
Wineandbread: Yoshl = Roundbox

PEOPLE WHO HAVNT ANSWERED: Mello, Yoshl

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so from that i will give 3 points to first place, 1 point to second place and lower, and if theres a tie its 2 points each.

Yoshl = 9 Points
Charu = 3 Points
Lito = 4 Points
Roundbox = 8 Points

Keep in mind these numbers are not final till i get all the results from everyone. But at the moment theres a clear hierarchy between first and second place groups

TIER 1 SUSPICION: Yoshl and Roundbox
TIER 2 SUSPICION: Lito and Charu

So stepping away from this for a moment, we have 4 schools of thought about lynches

School one: Kill mello first and leave everyone else till later
School one population: Charu, Yoshl, Litodude (Part Time)

School two: Kill between Sunfan/Litodude/YoshL
School two population: Hakulyte

School three: Kill sunfan
School three population: Mello, Litodude (Part Time)

School four: Open minded evaluation or noncomittal to the other 3 schools
School four population: Wineandbread, sunfan, roundbox.

Posting this as a part one with a follow up to come

Originally Posted by roundbox

I don't think you understand the fact that the + and - came from shado posting a positive reflection or a negative reflection over a player

this is not a MAJORITY thing
this is just SHADO'S opinion

I tried telling you this earlier but you sidetracked it by asking me about lito and PR hunting
pls

It still doesn't really change the fact that it's not really your own reads.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

this is where im feeling the blindreper from you.

it seems like you only have one solid scumlean at the moment and your not willing to move off them to the people youve been blindrepering (yoshl and lito).

I'm not exactly sure what this means, can you expand? From context it seems like you mean like, ignore other potential wolves because of a tunnel?

Originally Posted by thesunfan

oh you mean that one
yeah I think raeko is a wolf

Can I get an updated read list from you? So you think raeko could be the only wolf on your wagon at the time?

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

the consensus lynch pool atm is yoshl / roundbox / mello

i just want people on the record and voting people they should be from their progression.

so they can be pressured next day to follow up on reads.

one thing sunfan has going for him is his progression on raeko is clean as hell. smooth as butter. you get the idea

Consensus from who? Haku has none of those targets. I feel like primary scum yoshl has only really been coming from me. I wasn't willing to vote mello before but I am now, though atm I'm thinking between sunfan and mellon

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

This game is the result of what I learned from that game. I realized that relying on others is easily one of my biggest weaknesses.

I have to find my own answer and I also have to check out what the others are thinking as well and impose what I believe is right if I think I'm more likely to get a hit.

If another world expose flaws in mine, I also have to consider it. Anything like "you're wrong/your theory is stupid etc." is going to be automatically rejected.

Even if you say that "I'm right", I may end up asking you why you think so because I want to see if I'm getting sheeped or something.

How stubborn I've been acting this game is in direct correlation with how much I believe I'm right.

If I can't get exposed to something that will change my views, I have to learn to say no and keep pushing my world.

So, I'm tryharding independantly just to see what comes out of it. I'm very curious to see how it will end.

I'm gonna bring this up later

Originally Posted by Charu

Alright, I was under the impression that you somehow finally are seeing other worlds.

I still stand by, as well as others have already stated, that I will vote for mellon. If she does make a reads, I already said its a little bit too late. I'm sure she's got valid "rl" stuff, but that doesn't excuse for what I've seen her do this game.

Same with roundbox, I'm sure he also has valid "rl" stuff, but he's been super aggressive to anyone that even hints at reading him wolf. I know he can be aggressive, but my word he's been SUPER aggressive this game than any other game where people call him a wolf.

Last wolf is now a toss up between Freezin and YoshL. Though if I want to be honest, it's most likely Freezin due to Freezin's lack of attacking both and Freezin's effort posting as of late as he sees everyone turning their gears towards them.

Has rb been that aggressive against people calling him out?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

My entire game is a test. A very hard test in fact. Winning with me is the ultimate test and glory shall go to the players who can carry me out of my despair.

See my post later

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

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Have you tried playing in the very exact same way as me to see how it goes?

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xd

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

OK, Toyosatomimi-chan then? ^^

What do you mean "soft role playing"??? I can only be myself!!

Toyosatomimi-chan, I think you and I could be best friends~ I can't imagine you pretending to be so nice and understand toward me ("pocketing" but I can't fit in your pocket!!!) if you were a dirty sinner. I think we are on the same side and we should work together as best we can!

idk I felt kinda grossed out by this post, in a pocketing sort of way

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

WOLF FOR SURE: SUNFAN
PROBS WOLF: CHARU, LITO
????: BOXY BOY

TOWN CIRCLE: HAKU FREEZIN WAB

We all know your arguments on sunfan. Why Charu and lito?
Also this is the same readlist as Haku, who you are conveniently getting comfortable with. :thonking:

Originally Posted by Charu

Almost missed this because holy shit, I'm actually really mad right now.

This is easy.

First you say "I got wolfy vibes" and then don't explain, and wait and see what happens while going "oh, I don't know, but I like Tokzic's roleplay, and hey, everyone saying this isn't fun, we gotta make it fun!"

Then be kind of not there next phase, keep going with "Getting wolfy vibes from this dude." and don't really pair or think of any connections he could have. Knowing you didn't have these points, when EoD occurred, you kept on shouting "Kill thesunfan" with no connections still because you didn't want to paint your partners.

Now it's this phase, and guess what, you're still doing it, because you know making connections at this point is detrimental to your partners.

This makes a lot of sense to me.

Haku: Roleplay aside, he's probably town. I don't think many people are going to refute it at this point. Also I don't want to hear stuff like "everything is a test", that's precisely the kind of stuff that makes people hurl insults at you. I have more to say regarding your playstyle but I'll leave it for post-game. The tl;dr version is, don't expect cooperation if you aren't prepared to give it yourself. (see one of the posts I quoted in the multiquote)

I'm liking freezin more with his exchanges with sunfan and Haku. I think he is asking good questions and really trying to understand the game.

mellon's probably busy doing whatever she's doing but from her few posts her she is not as likeable as town for me now. She is being too buddy-buddy with Haku, pretty much 'takes' his wolfreads. What about Charu and lito make you think they're scummy? Looks much worse for her than before to me.

I haven't really felt rb's presence today. His most impactful post was parroting shado from the perspective of a confirmed town, which I had issues with from before. This makes me feel skeptical because it's as though he cannot form his own view on the game (though, he did express frustration with how he was reading the game before). Also regarding Charu's "aggresive roundbox" comment, here's a test: roundbox

yoshl has basically just popped in and out to say mostly inconsequential things which I don't like. He's not really moving the game forward. I agreed with his post in #3874 though.

I'd like to see a revised readlist from sunfan but overall he's playing better today

On the whole I feel good about Charu, I've liked the points he made. This is a bit of a lazy read but I definitely don't want to see him lynched

lito... I'm not sure really what to think of lito. At the very least, he shouldn't get lynched today. I'm gonna move him closer to null though after thinking about the PR discussion.

Among lynch targets, I think yoshl/roundbox/mellon/sunfan are my preference, in roughly descending order.

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I need to leave for some activities but I'll be reading on phone, should be around eod.